Mopar Oil Filter Drain-down

[jetrinka]

Welp this morning I started the truck as I was walking up to it and heard a definitive lifter clatter for 1-2 seconds. Sounded identical to typical lifter clatter you get doing a dry start after changing the oil and filter - time to get oil to the lifters.

Safe to say I was a little miffed but I am thinking I may have gotten a bad oil filter. Changed it this last Sunday using Redline and a Mopar filter. Hadn't heard a clatter until now but I usually start it in my house as well. I had this happen once in the past on a 4.0 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a Mopar filter. Anti-drainback valve wasn't working right and would let oil drain from the lifters overnight. The current truck parks with the nose uphill on a slight incline so if the anti-drainback valve was bad it would stand to reason with the filter being horizontal and pointing forward that it would drain the lifters.

I am going to swap it out tonight with a Wix XP filter and see how it goes. I've let it sit for a couple hours at work and haven't heard the noise again. Anyone else have issues with Mopar filters? Kinda wonder if the common denominator with "hemi tick" (even though this isn't the typical exhaust oriented noise people always complain about) is dealer oil changes with Mopar filters. Start lifter ticking in the morning.

 

[Crusty old shellback]

Saw a episode on Engine masters about oil filters.

K&N was best, WIX was second.

I use WIX when I can get them. Otherwise I use microguard.

 

[jetrinka]

Well I got the oil filter changed about an hour ago to the Wix XP. Couldn't readily see anything wrong with the Mopar filter although without cutting it apart who knows... I do like that the Wix filter appears to have a silicone anti-drainback valve whereas the Mopar appears to be basic rubber.

I've parked the truck nose up on a hill and am gonna let it cool off till 5ish and see what happens.

 

[jetrinka]

I should clarify this thread with something from another

this is why hemi tick does not bother me too much...page 371 of my owners manual.
Hemi engine (6.4L) at times can tick right after startup and then quiet down after approximately 30 seconds. This is normal and will not harm the engine. This characteristic can be caused by short drive cycles. For example, if the vehicle is started then shut off after driving a short distance. Upon
restarting, you may experience a ticking sound. Other causes could be if the vehicle is unused for an extended period of time, incorrect oil, extended oil changes or extended idling. If the engine continues to tick or if the Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) comes on, see the nearest authorized dealer.

I hadn't seen this before but it does exist in the manual. I should also say that the night before this happened I had parked the truck, let it cool for maybe 20 minutes, and then gone back out and started it/power braked it to look at something else and then just shut it off. Perhaps this was a "short drive cycle" that the manual talks about. Weird though....

 

[jetrinka]

Car sat last night for about 13 hours. No lifter tick on start-up this morning. We'll see how it goes!

 

[GPurcell01]

Interesting find. My old 1500 with the 5.7 would occasionally have the same tick on startup as well. Funny to see how even in the manual it's normal for a Hemi to do that according to them.