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Longhorn grille on a tradesman

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I’m really liking the Laramie longhorn grille. Does anyone know if the mounts are the same as a tradesman? Part number for longhorn grille is 68445621AA. Thanks.
 
They all show the same vehicle fitment here...

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Impossible to tell from the crappy drawing what the supporting bits might be.
 
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Found this on a FB forum if you're interested in taking your front end apart... and as an aside, that's a hell of an air intake @4:14...

 
aftermarket intakes move a ton of air. the maf's on these trucks get upset with them, though.
 
I would love to change the grille or do a complete package like the video but that’s some money. My biggest complaint is the basic Tradesman headlights. My brother in law bought a tradesman but his came with the safety package and has the better headlights and fog lights. Man what a difference. I need to figure out an upgrade.
 
woody284 said:
I would love to change the grille or do a complete package like the video but that’s some money. My biggest complaint is the basic Tradesman headlights. My brother in law bought a tradesman but his came with the safety package and has the better headlights and fog lights. Man what a difference. I need to figure out an upgrade.
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I got the katana led low beams from amazon for 50 bucks, that was a hell of a difference from stock.
 
elephantrider said:
aftermarket intakes move a ton of air. the maf's on these trucks get upset with them, though.
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Looking at the S&B (that the first that came up in a google search) they use the same OEM 'snorkle'.
They make some nice claims (37% more flow) that great, but if is 37% more than the engine needs you are wasting your money.
And they provide no charts and no data on testing of OEM vs their brand.

At least AFE posts a chart showing OEM CFM at 430.
FWIW, found this chart here : 5.7 Hemi, 6.1 Hemi, 6.4 Hemi Cylinder Head Comparison

I have no idea what 'lift' means, but it shows the max Intake CFM at 339... well below the CFM of the OEM filter as claimed by AFE.
So, it moves more air, but it is entirely unusable by the engine...


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I don't disagree with any of that. I'd imagine the 37% increase comes about when you remove the side panel, which coincidently, is also when the maf gets pissy.
 
elephantrider said:
I don't disagree with any of that. I'd imagine the 37% increase comes about when you remove the side panel, which coincidently, is also when the maf gets pissy.
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Exactly...they don't say how they get the increase, is it the filter alone or removing the side panel?
I just don't like plunking down my money without demonstrable numbers...trying to either from these 'performance' people is nigh on impossible which leads me to believe their claims are BS.
 
I’ve also read that their filters gain airflow at the expense of filtration efficiency, meaning your engine eats more dirt with high flow filters. To me it is not worth it for the expense and maintenance alone, I’d rather be able to purchase my filter anywhere, not have to worry if I cleaned the old one properly, just toss it and plop in a new one.
 
elephantrider said:
here is some detail on the s&b.

75-5132 ISO5011 Testing.pdf

drive.google.com drive.google.com
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Thanks, somewhat helpful, but was hoping for info on the gasser vs the turbo diesel (it can compress air into the cylinder and likely make use of the extra CFM) unlike the gasser which would only take X amount of air.
Where did you get that information from as I'm not seeing it on the website.
 
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