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Level and Alignment issues?

DHaus

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I just added a Bilstein 2" level kit with the reservoir 5160's to my 2019 2500 Reg Cab Long Bed Hemi Tradesman. Also added matching rear shocks and a 1" rear spacer (wanted a little rake). Also used an RC adjustable track bar and the RC steering box brace. My brother is an ASE mechanic with a side home business and did most of the work for me. I helped for a bit but I left the truck with him overnight and he was able to get my truck to his normal local alignment shop before I thought to talk to him about the specs for alignment that thuren recommends. That's on me but I've got a couple questions about what came back from the alignment shop. They are recommending offset ball joints to correct the camber and this isn't something I ever ran into researching level/lifts on these trucks. My brother has a great relationship with the alignment shop and for the price they/he is charging me I'm completely good with having it redone to thuren/CJC specs but the alignment shop doesn't think it will have any affect on the camber issues. Here are the specs they gave me from the alignment.

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The Thuren/CJC specs call for 0.00-.05 total toe and 3.5-4 caster for 2019 hemi trucks. So I'm pretty close on the caster but not so much on the toe. Has anyone else run into this issue? This truck only has 4K miles on it and I'd hate to swap out the ball joints for offset balljoints if they aren't needed at this 2" lift height.

Otherwise I love how everything worked out. Went with 285 75 18 Falken Wildpeak at3w on Level 8 Hauler 18x9 0 wheels. I know the wheels offset isn't ideal but with the skinnier "35's" they end up just covered by the mopar offroad style flares.

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I have a 2019 3500 SRW, CC HO Cummins Long bed and rear factory air suspension. I put the Thuren 1.75 coils, 1" rear block and King 2.5 shocks on it.

The first alignment was to factory specs (my bad as well), but I went back and had it aligned with the Thuren specs. There were no issues. If I remember correctly it ended up at 0.01 Total Toe. I don't have the printout from the second visit because the printer wasn't working. A friend of mine at the local Les Schwab was doing it and I was in the alignment bay with him at the time.

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If it were me, I would ignore them on the camber and just have them adjust the total toe to your specs. Unless you have something other than stock ball joints I would not mess with those. It is amazing how many alignment shops get these trucks wrong, it is like they overthink it. I don’t recommend this unless you are comfortable, but just to make my point, I correct my own toe with a tape measure and I set my own caster just by the marks on the cam bolts. I do this because I bet you 3 out of 4 times I get an alignment it comes out worse than before I brought it in. I also use the Thuren specs on each Ram I have had. My truck tracks straight down the road every time. The whole reason this can be done on our truck is because camber is set and you don’t have to mess with it, so I suggest not messing with offset ball joints.
 
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I just added a Bilstein 2" level kit with the reservoir 5160's to my 2019 2500 Reg Cab Long Bed Hemi Tradesman. Also added matching rear shocks and a 1" rear spacer (wanted a little rake). Also used added a RC adjustable track bar and the RC steering box brace. My brother is an ASE mechanic with a side home business and did most of the work for me. I helped for a bit but I left the truck with him overnight and he was able to get my truck to his normal local alignment shop before I thought to talk to him about the specs for alignment that thuren recommends. That's on me but I've got a couple questions about what came back from the alignment shop. They are recommending offset ball joints to correct the camber and this isn't something I ever ran into researching level/lifts on these trucks. My brother has a great relationship with the alignment shop and for the price they/he is charging me I'm completely good with having it redone to thuren/CJC specs but the alignment shop doesn't think it will have any affect on the camber issues. Here are the specs they gave me from the alignment.

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The Thuren/CJC specs call for 0.00-.05 total toe and 3.5-4 caster for 2019 hemi trucks. So I'm pretty close on the caster but not so much on the toe. Has anyone else run into this issue? This truck only has 4K miles on it and I'd hate to swap out the ball joints for offset balljoints if they aren't needed at this 2" lift height.

Otherwise I love how everything worked out. Went with 285 75 18 Falken Wildpeak at3w on Level 8 Hauler 18x9 0 wheels. I know the wheels offset isn't ideal but with the skinnier "35's" they end up just covered by the mopar offroad style flares.

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Nice looking truck.
 
I just added a Bilstein 2" level kit with the reservoir 5160's to my 2019 2500 Reg Cab Long Bed Hemi Tradesman. Also added matching rear shocks and a 1" rear spacer (wanted a little rake). Also used an RC adjustable track bar and the RC steering box brace. My brother is an ASE mechanic with a side home business and did most of the work for me. I helped for a bit but I left the truck with him overnight and he was able to get my truck to his normal local alignment shop before I thought to talk to him about the specs for alignment that thuren recommends. That's on me but I've got a couple questions about what came back from the alignment shop. They are recommending offset ball joints to correct the camber and this isn't something I ever ran into researching level/lifts on these trucks. My brother has a great relationship with the alignment shop and for the price they/he is charging me I'm completely good with having it redone to thuren/CJC specs but the alignment shop doesn't think it will have any affect on the camber issues. Here are the specs they gave me from the alignment.

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The Thuren/CJC specs call for 0.00-.05 total toe and 3.5-4 caster for 2019 hemi trucks. So I'm pretty close on the caster but not so much on the toe. Has anyone else run into this issue? This truck only has 4K miles on it and I'd hate to swap out the ball joints for offset balljoints if they aren't needed at this 2" lift height.

Otherwise I love how everything worked out. Went with 285 75 18 Falken Wildpeak at3w on Level 8 Hauler 18x9 0 wheels. I know the wheels offset isn't ideal but with the skinnier "35's" they end up just covered by the mopar offroad style flares.

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Any chance you have pictures of the 1" blocks/ spacers you used for the rear? Particularly how they were installed. I have ordered 2 different sets of rear spacers and seems to me they don't fit (or I just have no clue what I'm doing). Thanks!
 
Any chance you have pictures of the 1" blocks/ spacers you used for the rear? Particularly how they were installed. I have ordered 2 different sets of rear spacers and seems to me they don't fit (or I just have no clue what I'm doing). Thanks!
Sorry, no pics. And once installed I can't really get a good pic up where there are at. The spacers I had installed on top of the springs, but they were were a little too snug on the plastic spring isolator and had to be enlarged slightly.
 
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