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Now that Tim Kuniskis has returned as Ram CEO, my understanding is that job #1 is to save the Ram 1500 (and eventually Durango and Charger on the Dodge side) and there are a lot of credible rumors floating around that he's already demanding a return of V8 engines in those models. The question is are they going to use the 6.4L in the 1500, which is something guys begged for a long time, or are they going to bring back the DOHC small block Hemi that was supposedly under development prior to the current horrible administration? Time will tell on that, but I think the take-away is that right now they are fixated on saving the brands and so the light duty 4x4s and the new Charger are getting the attention for 2025. I think we'll have to wait until 2026 model year to see the big news for the HD lineup.
 
Oh, lord. Sorry, not sure how I got shoved to the wrong link. Sorry. Man, that would suck waiting another year after sitting on our hands all this time. And the rattling my lifters and valves are making....Not sure how many miles my 6.4 has left.
 
Anyone who thinks they're getting a V8 back in a 1500 in the foreseeable (or likely ever) future is dreaming. The Hurricane engine has a lot more power, and lets them put up much better EPA numbers. Unless inflation goes negative (so never), gas goes under $1/gallon, and everyone feels flush with money, buyers of half tons are going to continue to be swayed by fuel economy numbers.

Politics are irrelevant, because any smart automaker knows that it's cyclical, and will eventually swing back the other way. If an automaker develops a more efficient engine and the standards get more lax then they have a vehicle that they can say saves the buyer money. If they develop a less efficient engine and the standards get more strict then they've just thrown all that money away and put themselves behind their competitors. No automaker is going to risk hundreds of millions of dollars developing something that might not be sellable by the time it's actually ready to go.
 
jsalbre said:
Anyone who thinks they're getting a V8 back in a 1500 in the foreseeable (or likely ever) future is dreaming. The Hurricane engine has a lot more power, and lets them put up much better EPA numbers. Unless inflation goes negative (so never), gas goes under $1/gallon, and everyone feels flush with money, buyers of half tons are going to continue to be swayed by fuel economy numbers.

Politics are irrelevant, because any smart automaker knows that it's cyclical, and will eventually swing back the other way. If an automaker develops a more efficient engine and the standards get more lax then they have a vehicle that they can say saves the buyer money. If they develop a less efficient engine and the standards get more strict then they've just thrown all that money away and put themselves behind their competitors. No automaker is going to risk hundreds of millions of dollars developing something that might not be sellable by the time it's actually ready to go.
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I'd take that bet. EPA numbers, power on paper, and any other metric be damned....ultimately what matters to an OE are sales numbers. And their sales numbers (and stock value) are horrendous. And this began immediately after V8 inventory started to dry up. You're going to see big changes in 2025.

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WXman said:
I'd take that bet. EPA numbers, power on paper, and any other metric be damned....ultimately what matters to an OE are sales numbers. And their sales numbers (and stock value) are horrendous. And this began immediately after V8 inventory started to dry up. You're going to see big changes in 2025.

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Now would be the time to buy up some stock though lol
 
And right on cue... in the continued push away from EV, Ram announces today that the Ram REV is being pushed to 2026 and the Ramcharger is being moved forward to early 2025. Tim Kuniskis is already making positive changes.

Now....if we can just squeeze the 6.4 Hemi into the Laramie models...
 
WXman said:
And right on cue... in the continued push away from EV, Ram announces today that the Ram REV is being pushed to 2026 and the Ramcharger is being moved forward to early 2025. Tim Kuniskis is already making positive changes.

Now....if we can just squeeze the 6.4 Hemi into the Laramie models...
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That’s good news for me, since I’ve been ultimately holding out for the Ramcharger. And now, given the lethargic updates to the HD lineup (with the possibility of no hemi limited yet another model year), that’s probably what I’ll end up going with as soon as they can be ordered.
 
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