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So I am in need of a bit of advice/help on this. It pertains to the dreaded DPF and Regen issues. And I apologize for the long post but i want to give as much detail as possible. First a little back history on the truck. I have a 2024 Ram 2500 Rebel with the 6.7 diesel with 75k miles on the truck ( I commute daily from the Blue Ridge Mountains to DC daily with constant 75 - 80mph driving for an hour and a half). When I first got the truck and performed my first filter change (oil, air, fuel) Afterwards I started having the Regen too frequent code. First dealer trip we found that I had a FRAM air filter with the glue strips. (I didn't know any better at the time) Changed it with a BPro Auto filter from the dealer. Second time the dealer replaced the DOC, they also found that i had a bad diesel exhaust fluid pump and harness. Changed that, ran a forced Regen, sent me on my way. Oh, they also found that i had an exhaust leak that they created when they replaced the DOC. The truck was in the shop nearly every other weekend for about 3 months. Then I performed my next oil and filter service (oil, air, fuel) and after EXTENDED research on this forum and many YouTube videos I found that I had VERY WELL Made China-knock-off fuel filters that I Purchased off of Walmart's website. (I thought Walmart was safe from the 3rd party China hacks like Amazon and EBay. Unfortunately not). It took me a bit of investigating to notice the subtle variances in the knock-offs. I have since switched to purchasing all of my filters from Geno's Garage. Cannot speak nicer things about those folks! Anyways, I switched back to genuine OEM filters and the Regen frequency issues went away. Cool! Starting to love my truck again. Now here is where it gets interesting. My truck's DPF gauge (I have the all Digital EVIC screen) seems to irregularly go up and I cannot seem to go more than 500 -600 miles without a Regen. If I tow my camper i can get the truck to go closer to the 1000 mile mark, and one time when i towed the trailer to Outer Banks from Front Royal, VA I actually put enough time and miles in, to trip the 24 hour active regen cycle and the message popped up on my EVIC telling me a Regen was in progress. This is only the second time in the history of owning the truck I have seen this message. I have learned that you will ONLY see this message on this truck with this setup for the 24 hour Regen. No other time. I have witnessed my truck go through TONS of Active Regens and I have made certain to be on the screen that shows my DPF filter gauge. It NEVER shows this message while performing an Active or Passive Regen. ONLY when it is performing a 24 hour Regen. Anyways I digress a little on that one. Separate conversation for another day. My EVIC screen lives on the screen with the DPF Gauge and I closely monitor it daily. I can drive the same stretch of road driving the same exact speed and obtain different results. (True definition of insanity) Some days my DPF gauge will not change at all, some days it will jump from 0% to 10%, or 10% to 20% (the DPF gauge only advances in increments of 10). Some days i can drive all the way from my house in the mountains to DC (68 miles) and my DPF gauge never moves from zero, other days it can jump 10 or 20%. I have even seen my truck perform PASIVE Regens and drop 10% here and there. Rarely I have seen the DPF gauge Passively drop the DPF gauge from 30% down to zero. (P.S. I DO know the difference between passive and active regen and can tell the difference in what my truck is doing. The main tell tale is the fuel mileage. It will drop during active as it is dumping added fuel to burn in the DOC. Passive, the exhaust is generating enough heat to burn off the soot without adding fuel). If I am towing my camper everything is right in the world. From starting at 0% on the DPF the gauge will jump up to 10% and then once the truck warms up, it will burn that off and will stay at 0% the entire time i am towing. If i am up at 20 or 30% it will passively Regen itself all the way back to zero and again stay there for the duration of towing.
Now here is where it gets really funny. Lets say I leave DC and my DPF is at 10%... It may jump up to 20% or 30% during the trip. As I hit the highway and i am cruising along at 70 -75 mph, every single bit of data and information that i have read, and have been told by the dealerships tells me that Passive Regeneration will occur at these speeds and my DPF gauge should drop. And mind you I am traveling into the mountains, so its not all flat land driving. But I am not traveling up 15% grades either. I even get my truck up to the 80-85mph range sometimes (Don't tell Johnny-Law on me...) My DPF gauge will not budge... not going up, not going down so I'm at a "stale reading" or one would think. Get home park the truck check the gauge its still at 30% or whatever. Turn truck off, go to bed. Wake up the next morning at the ass-crack of dawn to do it all over again. Start truck, look at the DPF gauge..... It's now sitting at 20%!!??? How, why... Does the DPF fairy come in the middle of the night and clean 10% of my soot load out for me?? This happens very frequently! To me this points out an issue. Soot load does not burn itself off while the truck is off. It just is not scientifically possible. Unless it's sitting in some kind of chemical solution. And this phenomenon is not always a guarantee. There are nights where I can drive the piss out of the truck, or drive it at a constant 70-75mph or even vary the speeds so that I am not droning the truck down the highway and the DPF fairy will not come visit. The percentage will be the same for the entire ride, and the next day upon startup. I have yet to find a way to consistently replicate the "issue". It's near maddening. Now some of you will say change the damn EVIC screen to something else and not pay attention to the DPF gauge, just drive the truck and if there is no CEL don't worry about it. However I'd rather get the added savings on fuel costs by not running Regens every 600 miles. That's a lot of added fuel burning for no reason. Also again there may be an issue somewhere, but not a big enough issue to trip a CEL. 90% of the time also the dealer will not do much or open a Star case unless there is a CEL present. So I am turning to you guys for help or guidance. Do i have a faulty DPF sensor? Possibly something else like a fouled EGR? Did the Chinese knock-off fuel filters foul or mess up the DPF sensor, or EGR? I'm at a loss or is this absolutely normal.... Not to be rude at all. But. Please do not respond about your 2015 truck that does not have any of these issues, its not helpful or relatable to these newer trucks. And yes, I'm aware that going on a diet would solve all these issues. But i don't have $7k plus whatever it would cost to do said diet. I'm looking for advice for people knowledgeable on the 2022+ trucks as they have a lot different tuning and algorithms than anything older. Below is all the pertinent truck specs. So again, please, I'm looking for sound, sane advice. Thanks in advance!!
2024 Ram 2500 Rebel 6.7L Diesel, STOCK, no mods or tunes, only add Power Service Diesel Kleen to every full tank of fuel, 10w30 oil, with all OEM filters from Genos Garage 75,000 miles
So I am in need of a bit of advice/help on this. It pertains to the dreaded DPF and Regen issues. And I apologize for the long post but i want to give as much detail as possible. First a little back history on the truck. I have a 2024 Ram 2500 Rebel with the 6.7 diesel with 75k miles on the truck ( I commute daily from the Blue Ridge Mountains to DC daily with constant 75 - 80mph driving for an hour and a half). When I first got the truck and performed my first filter change (oil, air, fuel) Afterwards I started having the Regen too frequent code. First dealer trip we found that I had a FRAM air filter with the glue strips. (I didn't know any better at the time) Changed it with a BPro Auto filter from the dealer. Second time the dealer replaced the DOC, they also found that i had a bad diesel exhaust fluid pump and harness. Changed that, ran a forced Regen, sent me on my way. Oh, they also found that i had an exhaust leak that they created when they replaced the DOC. The truck was in the shop nearly every other weekend for about 3 months. Then I performed my next oil and filter service (oil, air, fuel) and after EXTENDED research on this forum and many YouTube videos I found that I had VERY WELL Made China-knock-off fuel filters that I Purchased off of Walmart's website. (I thought Walmart was safe from the 3rd party China hacks like Amazon and EBay. Unfortunately not). It took me a bit of investigating to notice the subtle variances in the knock-offs. I have since switched to purchasing all of my filters from Geno's Garage. Cannot speak nicer things about those folks! Anyways, I switched back to genuine OEM filters and the Regen frequency issues went away. Cool! Starting to love my truck again. Now here is where it gets interesting. My truck's DPF gauge (I have the all Digital EVIC screen) seems to irregularly go up and I cannot seem to go more than 500 -600 miles without a Regen. If I tow my camper i can get the truck to go closer to the 1000 mile mark, and one time when i towed the trailer to Outer Banks from Front Royal, VA I actually put enough time and miles in, to trip the 24 hour active regen cycle and the message popped up on my EVIC telling me a Regen was in progress. This is only the second time in the history of owning the truck I have seen this message. I have learned that you will ONLY see this message on this truck with this setup for the 24 hour Regen. No other time. I have witnessed my truck go through TONS of Active Regens and I have made certain to be on the screen that shows my DPF filter gauge. It NEVER shows this message while performing an Active or Passive Regen. ONLY when it is performing a 24 hour Regen. Anyways I digress a little on that one. Separate conversation for another day. My EVIC screen lives on the screen with the DPF Gauge and I closely monitor it daily. I can drive the same stretch of road driving the same exact speed and obtain different results. (True definition of insanity) Some days my DPF gauge will not change at all, some days it will jump from 0% to 10%, or 10% to 20% (the DPF gauge only advances in increments of 10). Some days i can drive all the way from my house in the mountains to DC (68 miles) and my DPF gauge never moves from zero, other days it can jump 10 or 20%. I have even seen my truck perform PASIVE Regens and drop 10% here and there. Rarely I have seen the DPF gauge Passively drop the DPF gauge from 30% down to zero. (P.S. I DO know the difference between passive and active regen and can tell the difference in what my truck is doing. The main tell tale is the fuel mileage. It will drop during active as it is dumping added fuel to burn in the DOC. Passive, the exhaust is generating enough heat to burn off the soot without adding fuel). If I am towing my camper everything is right in the world. From starting at 0% on the DPF the gauge will jump up to 10% and then once the truck warms up, it will burn that off and will stay at 0% the entire time i am towing. If i am up at 20 or 30% it will passively Regen itself all the way back to zero and again stay there for the duration of towing.
Now here is where it gets really funny. Lets say I leave DC and my DPF is at 10%... It may jump up to 20% or 30% during the trip. As I hit the highway and i am cruising along at 70 -75 mph, every single bit of data and information that i have read, and have been told by the dealerships tells me that Passive Regeneration will occur at these speeds and my DPF gauge should drop. And mind you I am traveling into the mountains, so its not all flat land driving. But I am not traveling up 15% grades either. I even get my truck up to the 80-85mph range sometimes (Don't tell Johnny-Law on me...) My DPF gauge will not budge... not going up, not going down so I'm at a "stale reading" or one would think. Get home park the truck check the gauge its still at 30% or whatever. Turn truck off, go to bed. Wake up the next morning at the ass-crack of dawn to do it all over again. Start truck, look at the DPF gauge..... It's now sitting at 20%!!??? How, why... Does the DPF fairy come in the middle of the night and clean 10% of my soot load out for me?? This happens very frequently! To me this points out an issue. Soot load does not burn itself off while the truck is off. It just is not scientifically possible. Unless it's sitting in some kind of chemical solution. And this phenomenon is not always a guarantee. There are nights where I can drive the piss out of the truck, or drive it at a constant 70-75mph or even vary the speeds so that I am not droning the truck down the highway and the DPF fairy will not come visit. The percentage will be the same for the entire ride, and the next day upon startup. I have yet to find a way to consistently replicate the "issue". It's near maddening. Now some of you will say change the damn EVIC screen to something else and not pay attention to the DPF gauge, just drive the truck and if there is no CEL don't worry about it. However I'd rather get the added savings on fuel costs by not running Regens every 600 miles. That's a lot of added fuel burning for no reason. Also again there may be an issue somewhere, but not a big enough issue to trip a CEL. 90% of the time also the dealer will not do much or open a Star case unless there is a CEL present. So I am turning to you guys for help or guidance. Do i have a faulty DPF sensor? Possibly something else like a fouled EGR? Did the Chinese knock-off fuel filters foul or mess up the DPF sensor, or EGR? I'm at a loss or is this absolutely normal.... Not to be rude at all. But. Please do not respond about your 2015 truck that does not have any of these issues, its not helpful or relatable to these newer trucks. And yes, I'm aware that going on a diet would solve all these issues. But i don't have $7k plus whatever it would cost to do said diet. I'm looking for advice for people knowledgeable on the 2022+ trucks as they have a lot different tuning and algorithms than anything older. Below is all the pertinent truck specs. So again, please, I'm looking for sound, sane advice. Thanks in advance!!
2024 Ram 2500 Rebel 6.7L Diesel, STOCK, no mods or tunes, only add Power Service Diesel Kleen to every full tank of fuel, 10w30 oil, with all OEM filters from Genos Garage 75,000 miles

