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Comparing a 2018 to a 2022...Good Trade?

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Thanks for adding me to the forum. I've had a bunch of Cummins trucks and loved them all. My current 2018 has been literally perfect. Its a base model Tradesman Cummins Crew 6'4" 4x4 but it has pretty much everything you could have but rear air ride. I've had to do fluid/filter changes, tires, DEF, and diesel. Last time it was at the dealer was shortly after buying it new for a recall. My local dealers and carmax are saying my trade-in is something like $42K after 86,000 miles! This makes me consider buying another new one. Here is my dilemma: my truck has been perfect! I can't stress this enough lol. Would a 2022 be worse in any way? What I am worried about is de-contenting....like missing insulation, missing trim, cheaper materials, so forth. I know "stuff" is harder to come by during these times so I am worried a new Ram (new one would be a loaded tradesman or middle grade big horn) could be less quality or lower fit and finish. Can anyone confirm that the 2022 is just as good or better than the 2018 trucks? Thanks again all.
 
The interior on the 19+ trucks is better than 4th gens and is still the best interior in the light duty (HD) truck segment IMO.

The question is, would you buy the same truck or would you go "better" either in capability, powertrain, trim, etc etc.
 
gimmie11s said:
The interior on the 19+ trucks is better than 4th gens and is still the best interior in the light duty (HD) truck segment IMO.

The question is, would you buy the same truck or would you go "better" either in capability, powertrain, trim, etc etc.
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I think I would go Tradesman or Big Horn. It would be a 4x4, 2500, Cummins, Crew, 6'4" bed. I remember selling a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited for a 2003 of the same exact build and buy was I disappointed...came to find out lots of little things were reduced/removed to save a buck. I have no reason to believe that is happening now just hoping its not. Interior and stuff is important...so is drivetrain not giving me lights and such. My 2018 has really been a dream.
 
Ah, gotcha. I guess I don't see the point if the plan is to essentially buy the same truck just "newer".

Just keep the 18 knowing that and enjoy her!
 
Your 2000 to 2003 trade was when Mercedes was in charge.. they cheapend everything they could.. seen it first hand
 
One more reason I wouldn't hate a new truck is to get 3.73 gears. I have 3.42 in mine. Works fine but 3.73 would be nice when towing. And I guess another motivation is the fact that trade in is so high I basically get all I have driven for a really cost per mile. And of course the new truck would start at zero miles. I am leaning toward getting the new truck since nobody is saying anything ill about the new build quality. Another thought I had is how many miles can I expect out of my 68RFE and also my emissions stuff like the DPF. With fluid changes will the 68RFE handle 200K? DPF make it that long? I have zero research regarding longevity of those parts so curious to hear others results.
 
2500Ram said:
One more reason I wouldn't hate a new truck is to get 3.73 gears. I have 3.42 in mine. Works fine but 3.73 would be nice when towing. And I guess another motivation is the fact that trade in is so high I basically get all I have driven for a really cost per mile. And of course the new truck would start at zero miles. I am leaning toward getting the new truck since nobody is saying anything ill about the new build quality. Another thought I had is how many miles can I expect out of my 68RFE and also my emissions stuff like the DPF. With fluid changes will the 68RFE handle 200K? DPF make it that long? I have zero research regarding longevity of those parts so curious to hear others results.
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Those are all good points. I had a 2016 cummins 2500 with 3.42s and I hated the how the 68rfe shifted and how the truck accelerated with those gears. Very clunky...

Plus.... everyone just likes a new truck!! its only money.. can't take it with you anyway.
 
gimmie11s said:
Those are all good points. I had a 2016 cummins 2500 with 3.42s and I hated the how the 68rfe shifted and how the truck accelerated with those gears. Very clunky...

Plus.... everyone just likes a new truck!! its only money.. can't take it with you anyway.
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Did you have the 68rfe long term? Any insight on lifespan on these 4th gen 68rfe?
 
2500Ram said:
Did you have the 68rfe long term? Any insight on lifespan on these 4th gen 68rfe?
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I got rid of the truck with about 70k miles on it... never had an issue with the trans, just hated how it shifted.

The 68 is a tough trans, but they do fail from time to time. If you click the "new posts" tab from the "what's new" drop down at the top of the forum, you'll see a failure that just popped up today... truck is a 2018, too.
 
I looked at several 16-18s when I was shopping. The new interior and the headlight design helped me decide on a new '19. Post cp4 recall notice I truly do love the truck. Nothing to date has me saying you cheap a** penny pinchers. I personally would be looking hard if I was at 90kmi. In my mind the value takes a hit at 60k, 100k, 120k. Every vehicle is seed money for the next. Your old seed is strong and healthy right now. But if you can get a good deal on fresher stock and your field(bank) is rich enough I'd make the deal.
 
If you told me you were deleted and possibly had been ahead of schedule on all 68 oil changes then I would say stay with your 18'. However, with the amount of electronics and hard parts all related to the emissions systems alone in the truck.. you would be hard pressed to go another 80k miles without a failure of some kind outside of regular maintenance items. Sooner or later the plastics and rubber parts will need replacing when in a new truck starting a 0, the sky is the limit.

Watch all the videos about from launch of the new gen and it will further show you improvements like the GCI block, both transmissions updated, interior is record setting and talking reliability.. this I believe will be one of, if not the last tried and true mechanical generation. It has almost all the good things about your truck plus a whole lot more. Also, being in the industry, you may want to check out private sale and compare against the tax savings with the tax credit you can get and line it up when with your new one arrives.

There is always a chance of getting a lemon (however very small), but there are thousands of us that are loving the drive and turning around to take one last look before we walk away as we park with these trucks. Ram seriously hit the nail on the head IMO on striking a balance of tried and true powertrain with upgrades and new technology and interior finishes making it compete and lead in the luxury department. I say take the plunge and buy a loaded Big Horn and forget about the pennies for a few years and enjoy the upgrades. They sure have not taken anything out in way of comfort and tech like your scenario with the Jeep.
 
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If you told me you were deleted and possibly had been ahead of schedule on all 68 oil changes then I would say stay with your 18'. However, with the amount of electronics and hard parts all related to the emissions systems alone in the truck.. you would be hard pressed to go another 80k miles without a failure of some kind outside of regular maintenance items. Sooner or later the plastics and rubber parts will need replacing when in a new truck starting a 0, the sky is the limit.

Watch all the videos about from launch of the new gen and it will further show you improvements like the GCI block, both transmissions updated, interior is record setting and talking reliability.. this I believe will be one of, if not the last tried and true mechanical generation. It has almost all the good things about your truck plus a whole lot more. Also, being in the industry, you may want to check out private sale and compare against the tax savings with the tax credit you can get and line it up when with your new one arrives.

There is always a chance of getting a lemon (however very small), but there are thousands of us that are loving the drive and turning around to take one last look before we walk away as we park with these trucks. Ram seriously hit the nail on the head IMO on striking a balance of tried and true powertrain with upgrades and new technology and interior finishes making it compete and lead in the luxury department. I say take the plunge and buy a loaded Big Horn and forget about the pennies for a few years and enjoy the upgrades. They sure have not taken anything out in way of comfort and tech like your scenario with the Jeep.
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I think I am going to do the trade in. Local dealer can order one and I can keep driving my truck until the 2022 is here. This morning I was just going to build a reasonable Tradesman or maybe a slightly spicy Big Horn. Now I am convinced that I NEED cooled seats and as such a Laramie is my current plan. We'll see...might be too much of a shock to the system jumping straight to Laramie but those seats currently have me sold.
 
2500Ram said:
I think I am going to do the trade in. Local dealer can order one and I can keep driving my truck until the 2022 is here. This morning I was just going to build a reasonable Tradesman or maybe a slightly spicy Big Horn. Now I am convinced that I NEED cooled seats and as such a Laramie is my current plan. We'll see...might be too much of a shock to the system jumping straight to Laramie but those seats currently have me sold.
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2500Ram said:
I think I am going to do the trade in. Local dealer can order one and I can keep driving my truck until the 2022 is here. This morning I was just going to build a reasonable Tradesman or maybe a slightly spicy Big Horn. Now I am convinced that I NEED cooled seats and as such a Laramie is my current plan. We'll see...might be too much of a shock to the system jumping straight to Laramie but those seats currently have me sold.
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I will admit the cooled seats are pretty sexy and work really well. No more sweaty butt!!!
 
2500Ram said:
I think I am going to do the trade in. Local dealer can order one and I can keep driving my truck until the 2022 is here. This morning I was just going to build a reasonable Tradesman or maybe a slightly spicy Big Horn. Now I am convinced that I NEED cooled seats and as such a Laramie is my current plan. We'll see...might be too much of a shock to the system jumping straight to Laramie but those seats currently have me sold.
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atta boy.. now we're talking! You'll love the new interior.
 
Now that we're talking apples to apples, I can chime in with some relevance.

I swapped my 2016 Tradesman for a 2020 Laramie and I'm pretty sure it very nearly caused the world to end.

We ran out of toilet paper, ammo prices went through the roof, couldn't get chips, global warming melted my snowflake, everyone became a doctor and now I can't even leave my house to enjoy the truck.

Don't do it!! It just isn't worth it.
 
I went from a 2017 CCSB Bighorn cummins to a 2022 Mega Cab Bighorn cummins and i have no complaints. The 2017 was an excellent truck but I found myself in the same situation as you. Sold it for $50k in september with 74,000 miles on it. Paid 66.9k for the new loaded out Mega Cab. Look for a dealer to order if you arent on a tight timeline crunch and it makes the deal all the more appealing. Patience saves you a lot of money nowadays.
 
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