Anti-spin rear vs conventional with Traction Control?

[Derrick B]

Good morning general question to people with 2019 through 2022 ram 2500. I’m looking at a new truck in that era. I’ve got a 2010 2500 right now and it has the anti-spinner anti-slip rear and I’ve always been happy with it, but I’m finding a lot of the trucks now have the conventional rear versus the anti-slip And the conventional rear trucks mostly have traction control. I’m wondering if there’s some redundancy looking for both in a vehicle or is traction control sufficient nowadays with the conventional open rear, any comments from existing customers.?

 

[Deleted member 47449]

I turn off the traction control when plowing through deep snow drifts at a 20 MPH plus speeds due to it appears to apply the brakes to the wheel(s) slipping on our 2024 Ram 3500 4x4. Can't make it through having the brakes automatically applied. Limited slip is better to have which came standard on the 3500, whereas, the lockers engaged on our 2016 Ram Tradesman Power Wagon are even better yet while in 4 Low.

 

[Crusty old shellback]

Traction control is basically the computer applies the brake on the spinning wheel so that the torque is sent to the opposite wheel. Doesent matter if it's a open different or a anti slip/posi diff.
So you can have both.
My Power Wagon has a torsion gear position diff and also has traction control.
Other Rams have a clutch style posi.

 

[jaksecret]

Hey, I am an owner of a 2024 2500 cummins, and i seem to have no traction control in the rear. That is to say, if i get just a little off-camber backing down a small hill, the wheel that loses grip spins endlessly, and no traction control seems to kick on at all. Now, I want to reiterate that I am in reverse, I wonder if TC doesn't engage in reverse? any ideas?

 

[SolidAxleorBust]

Traction control is a limited way to provide forward motion by slamming on the brakes. Add a Limited Slip differential and now that can also force it to transfer power MECHANICALLY to the other wheel. Traction control is for wet roads and gravel. After that you need 4x4, LSD then lockers depending on the capability you desire. In my humble opinion, pick up trucks should never be built with out a rear LSD.

 

[jaksecret]

I'd love to have LSD or lockers. I know I don't have that. Being a 2500 set up for towing, it would be darn expensive to add LSD to the rear, and I'm not taking this thing off road--- if its slick, i'm in 4wd. So I'm really just wondering if anyone knows whether traction control, BLD, or whatever you want to call it, is sometimes not available, especially at very slow speeds. I have realized that in fact, moving forward slowly on the same off-camber spot i get a ton of wheelspin as well. So whether im creeping forward or reverse, the rear acts just like an open diff from 1965 and just......spins. Does anyone know if that's normal for a modern truck like this?

 

[SolidAxleorBust]

Traction control is some what limited on these trucks. They are more designed to work with heavy duty gear like lockers and LSD. Traction control over heats, burns up brakes and the like. Personally I don't think its very aggressive. My Ineos Grenadier is similar, one ton gear and they expect you to use lockers, not rely on traction control. A Land Rover or Land Cruiser will see incredible traction control, but you cant tow, and they are light duty vehicles if that makes sense.

 

[sstoner911]

I'd love to have LSD or lockers. I know I don't have that. Being a 2500 set up for towing, it would be darn expensive to add LSD to the rear, and I'm not taking this thing off road--- if its slick, i'm in 4wd. So I'm really just wondering if anyone knows whether traction control, BLD, or whatever you want to call it, is sometimes not available, especially at very slow speeds. I have realized that in fact, moving forward slowly on the same off-camber spot i get a ton of wheelspin as well. So whether im creeping forward or reverse, the rear acts just like an open diff from 1965 and just......spins. Does anyone know if that's normal for a modern truck like this?

Yes, if your truck does not have a limited slip diff thats normal.

Traction control is a totally different animal and is not going to be any benefit to you in the scenario you described. What you want is a locker of some sort powered air, electric or a luch box type locker. Some guys will turn off ESC/Traction control off road. There is a button for that.

Traction control will reduce power to a wheel that has lost traction, like on a slippery icy road so you dont spin out, fishtail etc...

 

[Crusty old shellback]

Just lightly apply your brakes when the tire starts spinning. Basically a manual traction control.