Am I good towing our TT with a B&W Tow & Stow or should I keep using a WDH?

[Riccochet]

The chains absolutely change tension as the truck/trailer goes over bumps, otherwise raising the tongue jack to connect/disconnect wouldn’t have any effect on the chains.

The reason you don’t feel it as much is that it’s not an effective angle for the chains to apply enough leverage, this is also why it’s very ineffective at transferring a proper amount of tongue weight.

Same happens with spring/torsion bars when you raise the trailer with the tongue jack.

And the CAT scale on my setup says otherwise.

 

[AH64ID]

Same happens with spring/torsion bars when you raise the trailer with the tongue jack.

Yep, that’s why you do that to hitch up and connect the bars.

And the CAT scale on my setup says otherwise.

And you stated you have a small trailer, so it’s not really hard to transfer weight when they are light. It’s well known the Andersen is ineffective at transferring weight on higher tongue weight trailers. Plenty of cat scale slips around to prove that.

Effective weight transfer is the point of a WDH, sway control is a gimmick for improperly loaded trailers. It shouldn’t ever be needed.

 

[jsalbre]

Anderson also provides 0 sway control unless the truck and trailer are sitting flat. Any bumps that bring up the hitch relative to the truck nose and trailer tail (so basically any bumps) take the tension off the chains and then it’s just a floppy noisemaker.

 

[silver billet]

The chains absolutely change tension as the truck/trailer goes over bumps

Of course they do, but it's always a static force vs the springy nature of trunion bars.

 

[silver billet]

Anderson also provides 0 sway control unless the truck and trailer are sitting flat.

There is constant/permanent friction inside the head of hitch where the ball is mounted, the ball cannot be turned freely in the receiver and needs significant amount of force for it to turn. The trailer hitch does not turn on the ball ever, the whole ball itself turns in the hitch and that friction is the sway control.

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

There is constant/permanent friction inside the head of hitch where the ball is mounted, the ball cannot be turned freely in the receiver and needs significant amount of force for it to turn. The trailer hitch does not turn on the ball ever, the whole ball itself turns in the hitch and that friction is the sway control.

You cant be serious that is laughable. The swivel ball is a terrible design and does not control any sway that ball does not provide enough resistance to control sway. And it becomes a wearable part.

 

[AH64ID]

Of course they do, but it's always a static force vs the springy nature of trunion bars.

If the tension changes so does the force….

You cant be serious that is laughable. The swivel ball is a terrible design and does not control any sway that ball does not provide enough resistance to control sway. And it becomes a wearable part.

Hence sway control being a bandaid and gimmick for improperly loaded trailers, but marketing sure has some folks really liking the kool-aid.

 

[silver billet]

If the tension changes so does the force….

Why don't you actually read some information instead of confidently posting incorrect information:

How does the 'No-Sway, No-Bounce' Weight Distribution Hitch work? | Andersen Hitches Help

Sway Control Our weight-distribution hitch eliminates swaying. How? The friction cone (brake material) in the anti-sway ball housing is what eliminates sway. The material we use is similar to the material used in auto brake pads, but in its lifetime will only be subjected to a tiny fraction of what

help.andersenhitches.com

Do you understand physics? A spring/tension force is not the same as a static force.

Hence sway control being a bandaid and gimmick for improperly loaded trailers, but marketing sure has some folks really liking the kool-aid.

Yes dear. You're right. The entire world is wrong.

I'd put you on ignore too as some people lack the ability to learn and it's not worth the time of day to argue with them, but apparently you're a mod now. Guess I'm headed out. Bye now.

 

[Great White North Eh]

I guess there’s a $#!T load of coal bein dumped tonight.

 

[Riccochet]

Yep, that’s why you do that to hitch up and connect the bars.



And you stated you have a small trailer, so it’s not really hard to transfer weight when they are light. It’s well known the Andersen is ineffective at transferring weight on higher tongue weight trailers. Plenty of cat scale slips around to prove that.

Effective weight transfer is the point of a WDH, sway control is a gimmick for improperly loaded trailers. It shouldn’t ever be needed.

31' long and 9000# is small for a bumper pull?

I respect your opinion on the Andersen, but I whole heartedly disagree with it.

 

[AH64ID]

31' long and 9000# is small for a bumper pull?

I respect your opinion on the Andersen, but I whole heartedly disagree with it.

Sorry, confused your trailer size with another member.

Your trailer is not small, but the weight tickets I’ve seen and the effects of the Anderson I’ve personally witnessed do not match your statements. The physics behind the design of the hitch don’t match your accounts of it either.

It’s like Banks stuff, people fall for the marketing and bling of the Anderson products and then defend their decision tooth and nail, regardless of actual performance. It’s actually quite impressive what those two brands have done to persuade some individuals.

 

[RAM DRVR]

Hmmmm, off topic a bit………. Hope the OP got an answer.

 

[1sttimeRamowner]

Maybe I am simplistic in this. If I am staying on my property and doing just a small shuffle, I will not use a WDH with Sway bars. Anything beyond, I put it on. I guess I look at it and say that while it may or may not be the end all be all, especially with unbalanced trailer, bad packing, and improper pulling and driving, I still have some comfort and ease knowing it is just one more tool in my toolbox that allows me to be safe as I am towing.