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Alignment issues w/ brand new 2024 3500

ErikTheRed

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I bought this truck in July ('24 3500 Bighorn CC LB HO SRW) and on the test drive I noticed it pulled fairly significantly to the right and the steering wheel was slightly clocked to about the 11 o'clock position when driving straight on the freeway (necessary to keep the truck going straight. At 65 mph, if I center the steering wheel, the truck will be off the road to the right in 500-700 ft). When I got back to the dealership, they said they'd put it in the shop immediately for an alignment/adjustment. We did paperwork while they fiddled with it in the shop. Before I signed anything we took it for another spin and it was still pulling to the right, steering wheel still at 11 o'clock. It seemed like they did absolutely nothing in the shop. The tech showed me the alignment results which showed everything in spec, to which I said "I don't really care what the alignment rack says. My eyes and hands are telling me the truth-- it pulls to the right and the steering wheel is not aligned." He then proceeded to blame the crown of the road and all the blah blah as if I know nothing and have never driven a vehicle before, and I explained I that I'm WELL AWARE of road conditions that can cause a pulling effect, and that is not what we're dealing with here. I finally convinced the tech to take it for a drive, I went with him, and he says "yeah you're right, its pulling." Back in the shop again and they rotated the tires, and the tech claimed afterward that it was now pulling to the LEFT. So, the verdict was reached that it must be a defective tire. We made a deal that I would take delivery of the truck and they'd order a new set of tires, and they even let me pick the all-terrain version of the Transforce instead of the whimpy touring versions that were on the truck from the factory. We signed and drove the truck home. About 10 days later, took the truck back to the selling dealership to have the new tires installed, and guess what? It fixed nothing-- still pulling to the right, steering wheel still outta whack. Long day and out of time, we had to take it home as-is. Another cpl weeks pass and I schedule an appt at a different dealership in my hometown to have the issues fixed. They had it two days and claimed everything is good to go, but of course when I picked up the truck, STILL pulling to the right and the steering wheel exactly as before. That brings me to now.

What can any of you advise? They've aligned the truck on a rack TWICE, rotated the tires, then replaced the tires, all to no effect-- it still pulls exactly as it did the first time I drove it. What can be causing this issue? What do I need to tell the dorks at the service dept? What is the solution? This pulling/steering wheel nonsense is driving me nuts!! I received a questionnaire from Ram after my appt at the local dealership, and I answered that the problem has not been fixed. They asked if I wanted the service dept to contact me regarding the matter, I said YES, and I've not heard a word. That was 3 weeks ago. I'd appreciate any help from you suspension gurus as to what in the world is going on here. ???
 
What are the actual readings of the alingment?
Factory specs suck. See if they will align it to Thuren specs.
0 to .05 toe in is what you want. Anything else and it wears out the tires fast.

My '21 was out of factory specs when I got it.
 
Can you post a photo of both sides of the radius arms, to show the caster adjustment? Also, measure to see if both sides are at the same height in front? Also, is there a steering stabilizer in front?
 
I don't know if I'm suspension-savvy enough to post an accurate or helpful enough pic since I'm not sure what I'd be looking at under there. I know what/where all the components are but how to tell the caster adjustment by looking? I'm not sure about that. Both sides of the truck, if thats what you mean, measure the same height as close as I can tell in my gravel driveway.

As for whether or not the local dealership will align it to Thuren specs, I can ask but I'd think no. I'd probably get a line about factory warranty and all that.
 
Uuuu man this isn't sounding good. Brought home my 3500 dually last week and it was doing this. I had a 2.5 inch Carli lift with track bar had tires installed seemed to drive great but by the following day it was back to pulling with steering wheel Totally Crooked. I really hope there's an answer for this.
 
The pull seems to be causing the steering wheel misalignment, and while it’s not strong (500-700 ft isn’t that bad) it’s not right. There is either something out of whack with the alignment or something is installed wrong that isn’t easily identified with the alignment.

It’s been a few months, any updates??

Uuuu man this isn't sounding good. Brought home my 3500 dually last week and it was doing this. I had a 2.5 inch Carli lift with track bar had tires installed seemed to drive great but by the following day it was back to pulling with steering wheel Totally Crooked. I really hope there's an answer for this.

Unfortunately you’re probably out of luck for the dealership fixing anything with the Carli installed.
 
i have 2024 with same issue. Just went to another place and the steering wheel was off so they centered that but its still pulls to the right. They also said the alignment was good. Anyone find a solution to this?
 
Not really a "solution" but after the most recent alignment attempt, the issue seems to have improved with use. Does that make any sense? Is it me just getting used to it? Not sure, but it seems as these new Firestone AT2 tires have worn in a little, the pull to the right is only slight and the steering wheel is a bit more centered. No doubt the misaligned steering wheel is directly related to "compensating" to the left to counter the right pull, so as the pull has become less, the steering wheel has aligned better. Im not necessarily claiming my truck has fixed itself, but it seems to have done so somewhat. I think its the tires. For you fellas having this issue, what tires are on your truck and how many miles on em?

After I get the 1" spring spacers installed and the new tires on, its going to an alignment shop (not the dealership!) and getting aligned to Thuren specs. Ill report back after that.
 
Anyone else have updates as far as known issues or a solution? I have a 2024 3500 Laramie SRW that pulls to the right and after one alignment attempt it will just continue to develop the pull to the right within about a thousand miles, getting gradually worse. I am hoping for a solution other than regular alignment service appointments. Everything on the truck is stock including the Firestones. 7500 miles total now with alignment at 5000. I don't take it off road. Thank you!
 
You are having to turn to the wheel to the left to account for the right pull of the vehicle. (Aggregate steering play is made evident due to pull.) The vehicle is pulling to the right because:

1) Vehicles with caster will tend to follow road crown. They want to go "downhill."
2) US market tires are generally wound to have right "pull", because we drive on the right side of the road. You won't find this discussed on the interwebs, but as a son of a retired michelin manufacturing engineer, I can speak to it second hand. This will vary from brand to brand (magnitude and direction) but it's a targeted characteristic. The tires actually aren't steering ("pulling") to the left or right, they actually crabwalk axially.
3) Cross caster can be welded into the front axle to mitigate some of this.

You can add a Carli top mount steering stabilizer and adjust pressure to push the truck opposite your tires.

Has anybody bothered to measure the individual wheel weights? If the front end is biased for some reason it could tend to preferentially steer towards that side.
 
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My 24 pulled right and had the left cocked steering wheel also. The dealer did an alignment for me and it was corrected. But the truck is very sensitive to the “crown” or “roll” (think airplane rolling right or left) of the road. If im on nice level road the wheel is at noon and the truck doesnt drift. Any lean in the road causes the truck to drift down the lean. Its so sensitive to the lean that if the road is turning left and leaning left it feels like I counter-steer to the right after initially entering the turn. My 1500 didnt do this, but I assume the difference between a IDF suspension and solid axle is why.
 
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Just got it out of the alignment shop (NOT the dealership, this time it went to an independent shop and I paid outta pocket), the feller there said "no problem" to my Thuren specs request. Dude is very serious about his work and took about 45 mins after my truck was on the rack. When finished, his specs print-out looks to be right on to Thuren specs, and so far it feels/drives fantastic. No more right pull at any speed and the steering wheel is dead-on center. There might be a very slight tire balance concern with the new Kendas but thats a different issue. Seems Thuren specs are the answer for the notorious right pull problem, at least in my case. If your dealership refuses to align to Thuren specs, or you just don't trust the dealership to do anything right, take it to a reputable independent shop, hand them the Thuren print-out and say, "please do that". Likely it'll fix your issues.
 
Just saw this, I had the same concern and we have the added steering box to convert to RH drive. The pulling and steering off centre RH down a lot not being picky.
Just took it to a independent to sort and he told me the alignment was atrocious and fixed it, its been 22,000km and some of the harshest driving conditions and it is still perfect. Seems the factory is the problem.
 
A lot of these trucks have electronic control of the steering system. Lane keeping uses it. Any chance that this could be causing some of the issues. I seem to recall some sort of steering angle setting. Just thought I would throw that out there.
 
Agree with your assessment of the Thuren specs. Had mine done and fixed all of my ture wear issues. Also found out it was out of spec from the factory.

As for your kenda's, had a similar issue with mine when new. At 5K miles when I rotated and balanced them, the balance came in a lot better and not as much weight was needed.
 
Cjc offroad has them Thuren does too.
Basically you want 0 to .05 toe in. 0 being optimum. 4 degrees of castor.
Will be getting mine set to the Thuren specs even though it has no front differential. Still it is a solid front axle and the tires do have some toe wear. Busted a belt on the Nexen on the right side on the way north so now is a good time for new tires and an alignment. Six new tires waiting at home.
 
Guess I'll be rejoining the Thuren crew soon too.

2024 with 15k. Had my alignment checked to Ram specs a while ago but noticing outter tire wear on the Firestones.

Figure I'll finish getting my Thuren front end goodies and get the alignment fixed.
 
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