2025 3500 Dually - 13,500 GVWR?

[Transientgolf]

I’m looking at a new 2025 Dually. I was shocked / confused to see the GVWR had dropped to 13,500lbs (and of course payload then dropped by a corresponding amount). I see no indication of this on the Ram website. Is there a specific option that reduces the GVWR rating? I understand options increase the weight but that shouldn’t impact GVWR (at least I don’t think so).

Oddly I saw another 2025 with identical options that was 14,000lb gvwr (that I would have expected).

Thanks for any insight you may have!

 

[AH64ID]

I’ve never figured out what causes the 13.5K GVWR on some DRW trucks, but it’s nothing new. The axle ratings are the same, so there is likely an application where the lower GVWR is beneficial.

Rams tow charts show both the 13.5K and 14K GVWR’s.

 

[Transientgolf]

Thank you! So if the axles and everything else is the same, is it fair to say safety/capability wise the 14k and 13.5k trucks are effectively equivalent?

Note - I recognize the rating and how that is meaningful for what can legally be towed and do not intend to exceed that.

 

[AH64ID]

Thank you! So if the axles and everything else is the same, is it fair to say safety/capability wise the 14k and 13.5k trucks are effectively equivalent?

Note - I recognize the rating and how that is meaningful for what can legally be towed and do not intend to exceed that.

GVWR is meaningless for all intents and purposes when used non-commercially. It’s a registration and emissions weight and has no bearing on what you can legally tow/drive at.

The two trucks have the same capabilities.

 

[Transientgolf]

Thanks!

 

[motorhead426]

I’ve never figured out what causes the 13.5K GVWR on some DRW trucks, but it’s nothing new. The axle ratings are the same, so there is likely an application where the lower GVWR is beneficial.

Rams tow charts show both the 13.5K and 14K GVWR’s.

Doesn't this have to do with the axle gearing? I assume there would be a capacity change between 3.73 & 4.10 on the Hemi models. However, if you're only looking at diesel then those are only 3.42 gears and wouldn't apply here.

 

[AH64ID]

Doesn't this have to do with the axle gearing? I assume there would be a capacity change between 3.73 & 4.10 on the Hemi models. However, if you're only looking at diesel then those are only 3.42 gears and wouldn't apply here.

Gearing effects GCWR, not GVWR.

In this case the vehicles being discussed are all diesel.