Ok, my first post here. I am almost ready to pull the trigger on ordering a 2024 2500 Rebel with the Cummins diesel. I have already decided that this is the truck I want and will order it with the features I want. Here in CA my best deal from 10 different dealers is invoice. (plus any applicable rebates when it shows up). So my real question is: Do I wait for the 2025 with new engine and trans, pay what will assuredly be a higher price (probably both invoice price and less dealer incentive initially) and also be the guinea pig for Ram to work out the kinks of this new engine/trans combo? Or order the 2024 and be happy with the existing albeit it a bit outdated engine/trans combo. If it helps, it will not be used to tow much if at all in the beginning. Maybe a boat in the future but nothing crazy like a 5th wheel or heavy work loads. I am in no hurry and can buy now or wait. But If I buy now and find out I could have had a bigger engine/trans combo for the same price or close, that would kind of stink. Yet if I wait and the new system is riddled with problems, there is that ol buyers remorse thing. Looking for some input from a group that has way more experience with owning a Ram that I have. (which is 0) I have driven one on vacation every year for the last 7 years for 6300 miles in 3 weeks each time. So I do have some experience driving them. Just finally stepping up to own one.
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2024 Ram Rebel 2500 with the Current Diesel or wait for the 2025 Ram Rebel 2500 and updated engine and trans?
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H3LZSN1P3R
You're doing it wrong
With no release dates from Ram yet on the HD line up i would expect a long weight still for anything 2025. Plus i would weight and see how things go before jumping into one. There is not much reason to have the cummins if not hauling with it as there is a higher cost of ownership and maint. For your use there is no reason not to get the 2024
wrvond
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You said it yourself - you don't need a bigger engine/trans combo.
Purchasing now would be the smart buy. Purchasing later would be the emotional buy.
Purchasing now would be the smart buy. Purchasing later would be the emotional buy.
Grateful Dad
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I’d shop around, I know you’re looking for a specific spec but they’ve got a Laramie here local for $22k off
Dark Knight G45
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I was originally going to wait and get a 2025 but the discounts were great and the 2024 Rebel Cummins had everything I needed so I went with that. It’s my daily driver and it’s unloaded most of the time. I love it.
Ram is holding their cards close for either:
BIG SURPRISE NEW TRANS!!
or
BIG SURPRISE - NOTHING NEW
Even the insiders are being tight lipped, evasive, or don't know for certain.
BIG SURPRISE NEW TRANS!!
or
BIG SURPRISE - NOTHING NEW
Even the insiders are being tight lipped, evasive, or don't know for certain.
ThankfulLutheran
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You may want to give Tuttle-Click Ram in Irvine a call (949) 472-7400 and speak to Robert Trachtman. He’s the Internet Manager there. I purchased a 2023, 6.4, 2500 MegaCab last year for 4% below invoice. I ordered the truck in March and it was built and delivered to the dealership in late July. I live in Northern California and flew from Sacramento down to John Wayne International Airport in Orange County where Rob had a Lift waiting for me to take me to Tuttle-Click. Tell him Leopoldo from Chico referred you.
I have a friend that bought the same truck. It is nice and complicated!! LOL
He took in his 2013 RAM 2500 diesel with 90k miles, and was told it needed 12K of work to get it back to 100%. So he bought a new truck instead and traded in the "old" 2013.
Ok, that is pretty close to me. I will give him a call and see where they stand on the same build I am looking to buy. At least I will know if my local deal is decent. Appreciate the contact information.
Appreciate the advice but I am choosing the Cummins for resale value (used diesels in the central valley in CA sell like hot cakes if you can find one) and for the little bit of gas mileage savings I might get. Plus, if I bought a gasser Ram my father in law would probably shoot me and bury me somewhere.
I would shop if I could find anything close that has features that I want. Even finding a 2500 Rebel diesel without the airbags and sunroof alone seems to be an impossible task. I get that deals can be had on lot cars, but honestly if I am going to pay 70-80k for a vehicle, it is going to be exactly how I want it. I would just go shop used if I was willing to settle. Appreciate the opinion though.
LegendaryLawman
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Order from mark dodge at a deep discount, have it shipped to CA for around $1400
I have sent then a build and await a quote. We will see what they do! Thank you.
H3LZSN1P3R
You're doing it wrong
Spending 10,000 extra to be able to get 5,000 extra later doesn’t make any sense, and considering if you’re not driving the truck hard enough, you might run into DPF issues throughout your ownership and it’ll cost you more in the long run just a thoughtAppreciate the advice but I am choosing the Cummins for resale value (used diesels in the central valley in CA sell like hot cakes if you can find one) and for the little bit of gas mileage savings I might get. Plus, if I bought a gasser Ram my father in law would probably shoot me and bury me somewhere.
He'll most likely get very close to that $10K later, although in inflation adjusted dollars. The diesel option holds its value much better than the rest of the truck will, or at least that's been my experience over the years.
Agreed. Do some reading in here and other forums about these issues. I own a 22 Ram Cummins and love it, but I would not buy one for this use case. Too much potential for expensive problems, IMO. Not just a Ram thing either. EPA has near ruined a great thing.
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Personally, I'd wait. The ZF trans isn't a new trans, it's just new for this truck. ZF builds a great trans, and while there may be some small tuning adjustments once its live, I don't suspect any major concerns. They have been working on this for literal years, and allegedly it's got over a million miles of road driven testing behind it (can't recall where I read it, but they were testing way back in the 2018 models).
If you're wanting to save cash, and are willing to be somewhat flexible in options, I'd def look outside Cali. These trucks are sitting on lots around the country, and they are seeing serious discounts well beyond what you're gonna find locally. Buying an on the lot truck at a place like mark dodge and having it shipped, or flying and driving back is going to save you literally thousands of dollars.
If you're wanting to save cash, and are willing to be somewhat flexible in options, I'd def look outside Cali. These trucks are sitting on lots around the country, and they are seeing serious discounts well beyond what you're gonna find locally. Buying an on the lot truck at a place like mark dodge and having it shipped, or flying and driving back is going to save you literally thousands of dollars.
California get uppity when one buys a new vehicle from outside California as it may not meet California emmisions requirements.
Appreciate the input. FYI The diesel will cost 8,500 more (9k invoice price less the 5% discount on the vehicle comes to 8,500). Ive seen the same trucks (mileage wise) with diesels easily sell for 8-10k more than a gas counter part. Not to mention that they are way easier to sell. Not too worried about the towing as I will push the engine plenty hard off road, I just won't be trying to tow a house with it all the time. My father in law has had two Ram diesels over the last 20 years and has never towed a thing with them. They have been great trucks and his son has his old one now at over 200,000 miles. Appreciate the input.
H3LZSN1P3R
You're doing it wrong
If its been over 20years id assume they were not emissions trucks so don't expect the same lifespan or ownership experience just an FYI, at the end of the day its your choice but the more you say how the truck will be used the more the Hemi sounds like a better fit. Especially for off-road use.