You are not alone… heck i just saw a limited 1500 loaded DEMO truck listed for 93kAm I the only one that thinks Ram (and Ford) have gone off the deep end on pricing? I hate to admit it, but the 2024 chevy/GMC HD is looking better all the time.
It does, but the annoying thing is that dealers seem to either stock the bare bones stripped version for commercial use or the fully loaded $90k-$100k truck on the lots (at least around me). Its tough to find a middle-of-the-road spec 2500. And don't get me started on color options being stocked (hope you like white, black or gray).Kinda depends on the trim level doesn't it? Seems like if you get a high end truck, all 3 brands are high.
I'm starting to see a few HD's in inventory on lots lately so maybe the discounts will get back to "normal" soon.
Kinda depends on the trim level doesn't it? Seems like if you get a high end truck, all 3 brands are high.
I'm starting to see a few HD's in inventory on lots lately so maybe the discounts will get back to "normal" soon.
For the thrill I prices my 2019 Laramie with the exact same options, or as close as I could get, as a 2023 model. I'm now forced into the 12" screen, so that's a previously ~$1200 option alone, but the price ended up at $87,200, compare that to my 2019 with it's list price of $72,000. Assuming you remove the 12" screen that is $14,000 increase in 4 model years. That is absolutely mind blowing. It also doesn't even being to account for the fact that discounts are nowhere near where they were pre-pandemic level. Most dealerships around me are still doing above MSRP pricing, but even as that drops, it still means that if I bought a 2023 version of my truck it would cost me over $26,000 more than my 2019 cost me. That's almost a 50% increase in real world pricing.
I would really like to step up to a 3500 to have a better rear end for towing a 5er and doing a flatbet + canopy build, but there is no way I'll be doing that. I've even looked at stepping down to a rather basic tradesman or big horn, but the prices are still out of wack.
I don't see this lasting long term. There are more and more guys flipping trucks on the daily, I'm seeing less and less RV parks booked up for holidays compared to pandemic levels, and lots are starting to have some trucks that aren't yet sold. Given 3-5 years and I fully expect we will be back to pre-pandemic discounts, minus the insane inflation we have had.
I'll take the under on that one. With the looming recession, I wouldn't be surprised if we see good discounts and financing again later this year, and next year for sure. Just my $.02, I could be wrong.\Given 3-5 years and I fully expect we will be back to pre-pandemic discounts, minus the insane inflation we have had.
Inflation, as you mention, is at least part of the reason prices have increased so quickly. Also, you need to consider that your 19 is worth a lot more on trade than if the shortages had never occurred. That is less true now than even a few months ago, but still has to be considered to get a true picture of price differential. For example, I bought my 18 2500 loaded Laramie right at the beginning of the Covid lockdowns. Dealerships were a ghost town. It was 4x4, air suspension, Cummins, Mega, Ramboxes, 14K miles and Mopar Certified Pre-Owned. Under $40K out the door. I got my 22 through Granger, so saved $14K off MSRP. And I got $14K more for my 18 than I'd paid for it, when my truck arrived in early October of last year. That closes the gaps up pretty nicely.For the thrill I prices my 2019 Laramie with the exact same options, or as close as I could get, as a 2023 model. I'm now forced into the 12" screen, so that's a previously ~$1200 option alone, but the price ended up at $87,200, compare that to my 2019 with it's list price of $72,000. Assuming you remove the 12" screen that is $14,000 increase in 4 model years. That is absolutely mind blowing. It also doesn't even being to account for the fact that discounts are nowhere near where they were pre-pandemic level. Most dealerships around me are still doing above MSRP pricing, but even as that drops, it still means that if I bought a 2023 version of my truck it would cost me over $26,000 more than my 2019 cost me. That's almost a 50% increase in real world pricing.
I would really like to step up to a 3500 to have a better rear end for towing a 5er and doing a flatbet + canopy build, but there is no way I'll be doing that. I've even looked at stepping down to a rather basic tradesman or big horn, but the prices are still out of wack.
I don't see this lasting long term. There are more and more guys flipping trucks on the daily, I'm seeing less and less RV parks booked up for holidays compared to pandemic levels, and lots are starting to have some trucks that aren't yet sold. Given 3-5 years and I fully expect we will be back to pre-pandemic discounts, minus the insane inflation we have had.
My 2019 is def worth a lot more in trade than it would have been, but I'm by no means making any money on it. I bought as first owner, so I obviously will take the greatest hit, but as of right now I'm about 2k under what I paid according to KBB. Not bad considering I bought it 2.5 years ago, but nowhere close to covering a difference.Inflation, as you mention, is at least part of the reason prices have increased so quickly. Also, you need to consider that your 19 is worth a lot more on trade than if the shortages had never occurred. That is less true now than even a few months ago, but still has to be considered to get a true picture of price differential. For example, I bought my 18 2500 loaded Laramie right at the beginning of the Covid lockdowns. Dealerships were a ghost town. It was 4x4, air suspension, Cummins, Mega, Ramboxes, 14K miles and Mopar Certified Pre-Owned. Under $40K out the door. I got my 22 through Granger, so saved $14K off MSRP. And I got $14K more for my 18 than I'd paid for it, when my truck arrived in early October of last year. That closes the gaps up pretty nicely.
But I do agree that waiting some is probably a good bet too, as things slowly go back to normal.