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Hi all. First post here. Complete noob on the 2500's. Just picked up yesterday, coming from a 2019 1500.

Anywho, I currently have 3" of rake. I am looking at the readylift 1.75" level kit. How are they? I really don't want to get crazy with the suspension on this one. Just want to level out a bit, with keeping a small rake.

Also what steering stabilizer do uou all suggest for a mild level/otherwise stock setup? 20200722_095607.jpg
 
I have the Readylift 1.75" Spacer level and love it. I've put 3,300 miles on it in the last few weeks as I road tripped across the country, no issues. That's all I have is the level and 35" Wildpeaks. No other suspension components, nor do I think you need them with just this level kit.
 

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Personally I wouldn't use a spacer unless I had no other option. These trucks have an oddly positioned front coil and I have trust issues with it staying in places. Also, spacers ride like crap generally. Maybe 2" will be fine but it's def not going to be an improvement in ride quality. I'd save up for a Carli/Thuren kit as they include shocks/springs. That is going to make a world of difference in ride quality over just tossing a spacer up top.
 
I did end up sorting out a level. I've been doing a ton of reading and searching for kits. And there are plenty. Lol ordered the bilstein 5160 2" level. Also ordered a set of matching rear shocks to match all corners. I've had a lot of good luck with the brand. Also picked up a replacement stabilizer shock. 20200723_175924.jpgScreenshot_20200724-080847_Samsung Internet.jpgScreenshot_20200723-175712_eBay.jpg
 
I don't know if you've got a discount code or anything but that lift is over a grand for shocks and springs. I hear different things about the Bilstein shocks, and honestly for my money I'd look into the Carli or Thuren lifts. For an extra $500 you can get the Thuren overland kit that includes 4 shocks, front and rear coils, rear sway bar links, and a track bar. For 1k you can get the Fox Carli level or the Thuren Overland front shocks, coils and track bar and add a rear set of shocks and still be at a grand. I would argue that Thuren kit has a little more value for your dollar but it's also not the Fox name brand that Carli offers in their kit.

YMMV but personally I'd trust Carli and Thuren since those kits are tailor made for these trucks while I'd guess those Bilstein kits are just what fits but for more money.
 
I have watched a few videos on the Tube regarding the Bilstein level and it has some good reviews.

I’ve been looking at that one for my truck, but then found Carli/Thuren on CJC’s site and I’m now saving for one of their kits.

In my opinion, companies that specialize in these trucks, and R&D their kits for multiple years before release, will make a far superior kit!

At any rate, show us your install and let us know how it rides! I’m looking forward to hearing about it!


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I’ve been looking at that one for my truck, but then found Carli/Thuren on CJC’s site and I’m now saving for one of their kits.

In my opinion, companies that specialize in these trucks, and R&D their kits for multiple years before release, will make a far superior kit!

I've seen a lot of videos for Carli, and only a few for Thuren. In my humble opinion the best thing Thuren can do for themselves is to revamp their website and up their social media presence, especially youtube. If it weren't for the multitude of dudes swearing by Thuren on the power wagon forums and the fact that they were so responsive by email I'd prob not have gone with them.

I've seen almost every video that CJC has done and to be totally honest I didn't know they sold Thuren till just now. I only recently looked at their site and saw some of the other products they carry but I don't think I ever even visited their homepage (to be fair they have Thuren on the homepage).

I was gonna buy via CJC if I went Carli because of their helpful videos and their social media peeps (don't know who answers questions but they have been super helpful), didn't know I could have done the same with Thuren as well. They will still get my business for wheels and fogs though so at least that is something.
 
I have watched a few videos on the Tube regarding the Bilstein level and it has some good reviews.

I’ve been looking at that one for my truck, but then found Carli/Thuren on CJC’s site and I’m now saving for one of their kits.

In my opinion, companies that specialize in these trucks, and R&D their kits for multiple years before release, will make a far superior kit!

At any rate, show us your install and let us know how it rides! I’m looking forward to hearing about it!


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Yes most definitely. I went with them cause I've had their systems on several of my trucks. Very happy with their performance for my applications. At best, on this truck, ill go to 35 tires on factory wheels. Whenever the factory ones give in. Not going to go all crazy like I have in past. In addition I was able to save some $$ over sticker price. So it works for me. Will definitely do a write up on them once installed.
 
Just to play devils advocate, I’ve had Carli and Thuren on my previous two trucks. If you spend most of your time on pavement or gravel and not rock crawling or off-roading at high speed, they don’t make that much of a difference. This time I slapped a zone off-road 2” leveling spacer $100 and Bilstein 5100s $180, and a rough country adjustable track bar $200. It rides just fine. Yes Carli and Thuren may ride better from what people say, but I didn’t notice any great improvement. As for the spring angle, this spacer has an offset design to keep your spring angle stock.
 
Just to play devils advocate, I’ve had Carli and Thuren on my previous two trucks. If you spend most of your time on pavement or gravel and not rock crawling or off-roading at high speed, they don’t make that much of a difference. This time I slapped a zone off-road 2” leveling spacer $100 and Bilstein 5100s $180, and a rough country adjustable track bar $200. It rides just fine. Yes Carli and Thuren may ride better from what people say, but I didn’t notice any great improvement. As for the spring angle, this spacer has an offset design to keep your spring angle stock.

I always feel like there are two things going on. One is that people notice suspension differently, some people really notice the nuance and others don't, similar to sound systems. The second thing is that people often justify their buying decisions. If I'm going with a puck and cheap shocks then I'll justify and say it's "as good", if I shell out for top of the line shocks I'll say they are the absolute best thing on the market.

Personally, I don't see how you can take a shock not tuned for this application, with a factory spring, and then say it's not any different from a custom built and tuned spring and shock. But again, it likely just comes down to how much you notice suspension quirks. For me personally, I just bought a new 70k truck, I don't see the point in putting cheap components that won't last in it. Maybe this specific combo of spacer and shock is the perfect combo, but in every truck I've ridden that had spacers, even with decent shocks, it rode like garbage for my taste.

Not picking on you, just adding my thoughts.
 
I get that, I just don’t think you are going to notice a longevity difference unless you are the type that is really pushing your truck in more extreme off-road situations. Those shocks will wear just as fast as oem or Bilsteins when used in normal driving conditions, doesn’t matter how much you spend, the rubber seals will deteriorate and wear, then you’re stuck paying for expensive shocks every time they need freshening up. The other stuff in these leaving kits aren’t even items that are going to wear much even in stock form , I haven’t seen you guys discussing the **** that is actually going to go bad such as your ball joints, steering linkage and wheel bearings. Then comes the ride. If you are ok with the stock ride characteristics, a spacer is not going to change that ride. I have never heard any reasonable argument about how a spacer could impact ride quality, Now it won’t make it better, but it won’t make it worse either, it just physically does not make any since that a spacer on a live front axle will change your ride, on an independent front suspension it is a different story. I have no doubt that going with a taller spring will give you a smoother than stock ride, especially when paired with nice shocks, and if that is worth it to ya and your butt can feel the difference, then by all means go for it. My ass just doesn’t feel the difference, so it makes no sense to spend more money on those components.
 
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I think we just have different POVs here. I just dropped 6k for suspension, so to me it clearly matters. I'm hoping to see a serious upgrade in performance but time will tell and maybe I'll be back into the "lower tier" shocks due to cost and not telling a difference. That said, at least in all the vehicles I've owned in the past, OEM shocks are absolute garbage and never last. My experience with Bilstein shocks overall was not good either, neither was rancho for any, and the OME shocks left me disappointed as well. Perhaps I just didn't do as much research on the proper Bilstein shocks for my specific application or I was expecting too much, but they rode like crap and I replaced them early, not as early as rancho but sooner than I expected to. I hear awesome things about them and terrible things about them, so that steered me away from even looking this go around, even though they have some solid looking setups. They make such a wide range than maybe it's expected but I just didn't get a great feeling about it, YMMV. To be fair, I'm also hard on my stuff which may account for some of my views and the fact I just blew 6k on suspension. If you're only driving on road and very occasionally on well groomed dirt roads you're probably fine with whatever.

As for the cash, the higher end Fox and King shocks are rebuildable, so you're not paying the same cost every time. It will vary from shop to shop and still be more expensive than cheap shocks but should be cheaper than swapping in lower tier non rebuildable Fox shocks for example.

I agree on the other items you mentioned. Those are all going to get upgraded as the factory ones deteriorate. I'll prob swap in the Carli ball joints, I've been eyeing the Synergy steering but again, depends on how quickly the OEM one wears and lastly I'll prob upgrade to the dynatrac free spin hubs so that takes care of that.

You're right on the spacer kit, it's not going to matter if you also make other adjustments. You can't run a 2.5" spacer with the factory shocks, well not if you want it to ride nice anyway. It's going to limit your travel, which is going to then result in a worse ride. Maybe not for exclusively highway riding, so I don't think these trucks have a ton of suspension travel from the factory so it would probably be rather noticeable. Now, if you add a spacer, upgrade your shocks and probably buy an aftermarket trackbar, yeah it will probably ride close to stock. Def better if you swap out the god awful factory Firestones. Generally speaking though people don't do that. When they do a spacer lift it's just the puck. The toss in a spacer, leave everything else factory and put larger wheels and tires on. Most do it for looks, which is fine. If you're going to upgrade the components together, then you'll be closer to maintaining stock ride, or maybe a hair better, but it's important that you do more than spacer. I still don't trust those spacers with the new odd angle on the springs but to each their own.

I think at the end of the day it just comes down to what you want the truck to do for you and what you're willing to spend to make it happen. There is a reason there are multiple options as far as lifts, shocks, tires, etc. I hope this comes off as a fair discussion and not a pissing match, because that isn't my intent. End of the day everyone has their own desires and cash, doesn't bother me one bit how you choose to spend your money.
 
Definitely man, for those that lift and don’t adjust for the shock length, that’s just doing it half-ass.
 
Haha, I ran a shock extension for a couple of months until I figured out the shock I wanted. Another thing to add to all this. No one is going to look at my leveling kit and say “ oh man, that’s badass, I want that on my truck!” Some of those nice lifts will induce the drool factor!
 
Personally I only care if it makes me drool. Lots of people drool over those stupid SEMA trucks. Lifted 20" with giant wheels, everything chrome and color matched, can't get into the thing without a ladder, a u turn is impossible. Drool factor for some people, but not me. I get your point though, but functional is functional. I can't wait to report back to this thread in 2-3 years, wonder if I'll feel the same then.
 
I have the Readylift 1.75" Spacer level and love it. I've put 3,300 miles on it in the last few weeks as I road tripped across the country, no issues. That's all I have is the level and 35" Wildpeaks. No other suspension components, nor do I think you need them with just this level kit.
@PGHChris81 , How has your ride been with the Readylift level after putting more miles on the truck. Noticed any issues?
 
@PGHChris81 , How has your ride been with the Readylift level after putting more miles on the truck. Noticed any issues?
Sorry I have been out of pocket for a bit since moving. The ride has been fine with no issues. I think in total I've put 8,500 miles on overall it since the lift and no issues whatsoever. Granted I don't do a lot of off-roading, but I do occasionally see surfaces other than pavement.
 
Weird question but in regards to the leveling kits and such; does the 4x4 OffRoad package already sit any higher than a stock truck? I feel like my truck sits a little taller than my buddies 2017 2500. If this is the case has anyone had issue with leveling kits or lift kits not fitting with the OffRoad package?
 
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