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This is why I need new tires

whitexc said:
That is a staggering stopping distance and folks here rave about the Falkens.
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Got to actually get the truck going in order to do the stop test. The Falkens didn't do that as well either. My nearest neighbor runs the Falkens A/T tires on a Tundra. He's one of those folks which raves about them.

We had 4 inches of heavy wet snow last night and 7 inches of dry powder snow on Tuesday night (per our local snow record). I observed a 30 degree difference in the snowfall low temperature. Usually the heavy wet slushy stuff happens in Spring, not winter. Totally different snow for tire traction testing.
 
FWIW i have Falken Wildpeak AT4/w and we have had quite a bit of snow here (Illinois) this year and i never feel that the stopping distance was excessive and am actually really happy with them.
 
Bull Creek said:
Yes, however...Snow here in the Rockies is a light dry fluffy powder. Can't even make a snowball with it, whereas, California has Sierra cement being heavy and wet. 3PMSF rated tires which work well here, may not work as well there. I've lived and skied both locations.

TFL tire test results in Colorado.
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I’m definitely disappointed to hear this if it can be believed. I put the AT4s on my truck just last week, largely for the weight rating, but also because of the reviews saying they wear well, are relatively quiet, and are good in snow.

Here in central Illinois, it’s always a compromise for me, because it seems like I’m either on the interstate, or in clay-based mud (with snow on top of both this time of year). No matter which tires I have, a good percentage of the time I’m wishing they were something else.
 
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ATW3’s on two trucks and a Jeep no problems in Rocky Mountain winters seven years running since switching from KOs. Same experience as many many others out here.
 
I think its the same syndrome all the time. Folks want to root for the under dog. I have seen folks show up on wheeling trips over the years as well with anything but BFG and pretty shortly they are getting out a jack to change a flat. It has always been nearly impossible for the competition to keep up, but with the KO3 and the next level HD Terrain there is a huge separation now. Another fun TFL video with tires was a Subaru vs Raptor up hill in deep, unplowed snow to a ski area. The Subaru did not make it of course, but the incredible part was stopping. The Subaru on the downhill breaking test literally went for miles as the tiny tires have so little friction.
 
SolidAxleorBust said:
I think its the same syndrome all the time. Folks want to root for the under dog. I have seen folks show up on wheeling trips over the years as well with anything but BFG and pretty shortly they are getting out a jack to change a flat. It has always been nearly impossible for the competition to keep up, but with the KO3 and the next level HD Terrain there is a huge separation now. Another fun TFL video with tires was a Subaru vs Raptor up hill in deep, unplowed snow to a ski area. The Subaru did not make it of course, but the incredible part was stopping. The Subaru on the downhill breaking test literally went for miles as the tiny tires have so little friction.
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Which is the opposite of my off-road experience with BFG, they haven’t been as great as you’d suggest. I’ve ran KM’s (best of the BFG’s I ran), KO’s, and KO2’s over the years based on the BFG reputation and they aren’t a tire I’d ever run on my HD truck. The only reason I own a set of KO2’s right now is because I wanted some JLR takeoffs on my TJ and that’s what the Rubicons have. They are fine for my DD, but still aren’t an impressive tire. My wife’s JTR came with Falken AT3’s and they are hands down the better tire in every aspect.
 
SolidAxleorBust said:
I think its the same syndrome all the time. Folks want to root for the under dog. I have seen folks show up on wheeling trips over the years as well with anything but BFG and pretty shortly they are getting out a jack to change a flat. It has always been nearly impossible for the competition to keep up, but with the KO3 and the next level HD Terrain there is a huge separation now. Another fun TFL video with tires was a Subaru vs Raptor up hill in deep, unplowed snow to a ski area. The Subaru did not make it of course, but the incredible part was stopping. The Subaru on the downhill breaking test literally went for miles as the tiny tires have so little friction.
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You have some serious fanboy syndrome… I have ran KM1 they were great but the KM2s were trash, KO1 was ok not great KO2 was junk… BFG MTR was a great tire but wildly overpriced. BFG also takes a ton of weight to balance and overpriced with mediocre tread life. Also using TFL for proof is laughable
 
H3LZSN1P3R said:
You have some serious fanboy syndrome… I have ran KM1 they were great but the KM2s were trash, KO1 was ok not great KO2 was junk… BFG MTR was a great tire but wildly overpriced. BFG also takes a ton of weight to balance and overpriced with mediocre tread life. Also using TFL for proof is laughable
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BFG’s were also more commonly associated with Dodge HD death wobble than any other tire.
 
I have 350 mi on the stock firestones and am looking to switch to the Falen wildpeak A/T4w's as soon as I get the plow off the front of the truck. I've researched them all over the internet and think they will be the best for all around driving and then plowing my driveway in the winter.
 
The AT3w’s were good but I have been seeing and hearing some less than stellar reviews of the at4w’s for winter driving unfortunately. I was going to try them but now im thinking of getting something else as they are pricey and I don’t need a crap tire for plowing. Im debating on getting a set of aftermarket wheels for summer and just getting a dedicated winter tire for plowing since good A/T tires for winter are disappearing these days.
 
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I went with Milestar Patagonia X/T in 275/65/20. I haven’t had them in heavy snow yet but anticipate they will handle our “normal” winter weather here in the snow belt just fine, especially for the price. They balanced well, ride nice and are quiet. Time will tell how long they go but I anticipate weather cracking before I wear them out. 31k on the Transforce and could have done another 5k pavement miles but I wouldn’t hook the 5er up another year with them as they were.


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I only have 800ft of driveway to plow, so I don't think I need dedicated winter tires. Just need some for less than 6" of snow and unplowed roads if I go somewhere in the winter and take the truck. Most of my driving is going to be state roads at 60 mph.
 
whitexc said:
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I went with Milestar Patagonia X/T in 275/65/20. I haven’t had them in heavy snow yet but anticipate they will handle our “normal” winter weather here in the snow belt just fine, especially for the price. They balanced well, ride nice and are quiet. Time will tell how long they go but I anticipate weather cracking before I wear them out. 31k on the Transforce and could have done another 5k pavement miles but I wouldn’t hook the 5er up another year with them as they were.


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$50 less per tire than the Falken, but 40k mile warranty vice 60k for the Falken.
 
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