2023 Ram HD Builds and orders - Post and discuss your TRUCK order here! ** NEW USERS READ POST #1 **

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 28549" data-quote="dmhines" data-source="post: 251325" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251325" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251325">dmhines said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Low volume colors are built when they have sufficient orders of same color to send through paint shop. Supposedly 10. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>THAT&#039;S WHAT THE DEALER TOLD ME AS WELL. 10 OR MORE HE SAID. (HE ALSO SAID THEY WON&#039;T EVEN START THE ORDER UNTIL THEY HAD THAT VOLUIME OR NUMBER 1ST.)</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 31371" data-quote="rodeoridertaz" data-source="post: 251328" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251328" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251328">rodeoridertaz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> THAT&#039;S WHAT THE DEALER TOLD ME AS WELL. 10 OR MORE HE SAID. (HE ALSO SAID THEY WON&#039;T EVEN START THE ORDER UNTIL THEY HAD THAT VOLUIME OR NUMBER 1ST.) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Not sure what that means. My order was confirmed and I have a VIN.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 31371" data-quote="rodeoridertaz" data-source="post: 251328" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251328" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251328">rodeoridertaz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> THAT&#039;S WHAT THE DEALER TOLD ME AS WELL. 10 OR MORE HE SAID. (HE ALSO SAID THEY WON&#039;T EVEN START THE ORDER UNTIL THEY HAD THAT VOLUIME OR NUMBER 1ST.) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I WISH THEY WOULD PUT THE EXACT PICTURE ON RAM VEHICLE ORDER TRACKING SITE...(MINE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE CHROME DOORHANDLES AND MIRRORS, BUT THE PICTURE SHOWS BLACK. I ALSO ORDERED THE BETTER HEADLIGHTS AND THE PHOTO SHOWS REGULAR HEADLIGHTS). BUT IT SAYS UNDER THE PHOTO THAT: <b>IMAGE SHOWN MAY NOT EXACTLY MATCH THE PURCHASED VEHICLE. </b></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 31371" data-quote="rodeoridertaz" data-source="post: 251317" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251317" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251317">rodeoridertaz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> SO DOES THIS MEAN THAT 151 DAYS IS ESTIMATED TO BE THE LONGEST TIME IN THE ORDER PROCESS? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>No. That&#039;s the longest anyone has spent in C (order confirmed). To be fair, that value is from the second order on the tracker sheet, which means it was placed before production started so a long time in C is to be expected. Here&#039;s an updated version of the chart for total time by order:<br /> <a href="https://hdrams.com/forum/attachments/1678678133308-png.53250/" target="_blank"><img src="https://hdrams.com/forum/data/attachments/53/53250-56fc33f01f53ce10669d815d9275c79a.jpg?hash=Vvwz8B9Tzh" class="bbImage " style="" alt="1678678133308.png" title="1678678133308.png" width="320" height="150" loading="lazy" /></a><br /> This one is a little better than the one from my previous post:<br /> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Values on the x-axis are the row number of the order in the tracker spreadsheet. (The first order is on row 5.)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A black tip indicates an order marked as delivered.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">For orders not yet marked as delivered, the column height represents total order time as of today (3/12).</li> </ul>The maximum total time belongs to the poor bastard with the order on row 13 of the tracker who&#039;s at 176 days and counting, though there are several other orders not far behind.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 15267" data-quote="Turin" data-source="post: 251333" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251333" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251333">Turin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> No. That&#039;s the longest anyone has spent in C (order confirmed). To be fair, that value is from the second order on the tracker sheet, which means it was placed before production started so a long time in C is to be expected. Here&#039;s an updated version of the chart for total time by order:<br /> <a href="https://hdrams.com/forum/attachments/53250/" target="_blank">View attachment 53250</a><br /> This one is a little better than the one from my previous post:<br /> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Values on the x-axis are the row number of the order in the tracker spreadsheet. (The first order is on row 5.)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A black tip indicates an order marked as delivered.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">For orders not yet marked as delivered, the column height represents total order time as of today (3/12).</li> </ul>The maximum total time belongs to the poor bastard with the order on row 13 of the tracker who&#039;s at 176 days and counting, though there are several other orders not far behind. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>hOLY CRAP......I SURE HOPE MINE DOIESN&#039;T END UP LIKE THAT THOSE GUYS WITH A LONG BLUE LINE JUST MEANS ORDER CONFIRMED AND NOTHING YET ANTUL IT TURNS RED....WOW! .</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 15267" data-quote="Turin" data-source="post: 251333" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251333" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251333">Turin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> No. That&#039;s the longest anyone has spent in C (order confirmed). To be fair, that value is from the second order on the tracker sheet, which means it was placed before production started so a long time in C is to be expected. Here&#039;s an updated version of the chart for total time by order:<br /> <a href="https://hdrams.com/forum/attachments/53250/" target="_blank">View attachment 53250</a><br /> This one is a little better than the one from my previous post:<br /> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Values on the x-axis are the row number of the order in the tracker spreadsheet. (The first order is on row 5.)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A black tip indicates an order marked as delivered.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">For orders not yet marked as delivered, the column height represents total order time as of today (3/12).</li> </ul>The maximum total time belongs to the poor bastard with the order on row 13 of the tracker who&#039;s at 176 days and counting, though there are several other orders not far behind. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>LOOKS LIKE THE POOR GUY IN ROW 82 IS WORSE ... I THINK</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 15267" data-quote="Turin" data-source="post: 251333" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251333" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251333">Turin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> No. That&#039;s the longest anyone has spent in C (order confirmed). To be fair, that value is from the second order on the tracker sheet, which means it was placed before production started so a long time in C is to be expected. Here&#039;s an updated version of the chart for total time by order:<br /> <a href="https://hdrams.com/forum/attachments/53250/" target="_blank">View attachment 53250</a><br /> This one is a little better than the one from my previous post:<br /> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Values on the x-axis are the row number of the order in the tracker spreadsheet. (The first order is on row 5.)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A black tip indicates an order marked as delivered.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">For orders not yet marked as delivered, the column height represents total order time as of today (3/12).</li> </ul>The maximum total time belongs to the poor bastard with the order on row 13 of the tracker who&#039;s at 176 days and counting, though there are several other orders not far behind. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Im second on the spreadsheet... The long time from C to D was because the initial ordering system was glitched and was spitting out orders that were impossible to create. Took them 4 months to revise the order so it could go to D.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 24686" data-quote="pr3dict" data-source="post: 251345" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251345" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251345">pr3dict said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Im second on the spreadsheet... The long time from C to D was because the initial ordering system was glitched and was spitting out orders that were impossible to create. Took them 4 months to revise the order so it could go to D. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>WELL I&#039;M ORDER 171 RODEORIDERTAZ, SO TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE A VERY VERY LONG WAIT FOR ANYTHING.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 24686" data-quote="pr3dict" data-source="post: 251345" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251345" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251345">pr3dict said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Im second on the spreadsheet... The long time from C to D was because the initial ordering system was glitched and was spitting out orders that were impossible to create. Took them 4 months to revise the order so it could go to D. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. IT STILL LOOKS LIKE MINE WILL BE FOREVER THOUGH.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 31371" data-quote="rodeoridertaz" data-source="post: 251331" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251331" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251331">rodeoridertaz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I WISH THEY WOULD PUT THE EXACT PICTURE ON RAM VEHICLE ORDER TRACKING SITE...(MINE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE CHROME DOORHANDLES AND MIRRORS, BUT THE PICTURE SHOWS BLACK. I ALSO ORDERED THE BETTER HEADLIGHTS AND THE PHOTO SHOWS REGULAR HEADLIGHTS). BUT IT SAYS UNDER THE PHOTO THAT: <b>IMAGE SHOWN MAY NOT EXACTLY MATCH THE PURCHASED VEHICLE. </b> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Ram HD&#039;s with Low volume paint have always been built with black door handles and mirrors.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 28549" data-quote="dmhines" data-source="post: 245222" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=245222" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-245222">dmhines said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hopefully mine is all black like on the picture on the tracker ... 44Dan44 .. Any idea what the hold up is on your Tradesman ?? I see you have blind spot monitoring and I know you also ordered the 7&quot; Cluster . Wonder if RAM is just putting Tradesman at the bottom of the priority list. My tradesman is a Low volume color so I expected the delay - I also ordered Tradesman with BSM and 7&quot; Cluster . but I assume your&#039;s is standard color ? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Sorry I missed this post <a href="https://hdrams.com/forum/members/28549/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="28549" data-username="@dmhines">@dmhines</a> I did not get Blind Spot Monitoring, I assumed many things along the way, tradesman, long bed, 50 gallon tank, but mostly the 7&quot; TFT cluster (so happy that one came through for $75) was my main thought for the delay. But later I thought, I did it to myself making the dumbest decision in the history of decisions, didn&#039;t do it on purpose, and luckily its correctable after the fact albeit at almost triple the cost not including the time it will take to do. Care to take a guess what I did? See Where&#039;s Waldo pic below for the answer.<br /> <br /> Also, I am very looking forward to seeing your truck, I hope its a perfect match for your Shocker Camaro but even close enough will be cool as heck.<br /> <a href="https://hdrams.com/forum/attachments/iris-png.53255/" target="_blank"><img src="https://hdrams.com/forum/data/attachments/53/53255-0d230537dd91fd55461be6836bf80b00.jpg?hash=DSMFN92R_V" class="bbImage " style="" alt="iris.png" title="iris.png" width="225" height="150" loading="lazy" /></a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 28790" data-quote="44Dan44" data-source="post: 251353" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251353" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251353">44Dan44 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Sorry I missed this post <a href="https://hdrams.com/forum/members/28549/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="28549" data-username="@dmhines">@dmhines</a> I did not get Blind Spot Monitoring, I assumed many things along the way, tradesman, long bed, 50 gallon tank, but mostly the 7&quot; TFT cluster (so happy that one came through for $75) was my main thought for the delay. But later I thought, I did it to myself making the dumbest decision in the history of decisions, didn&#039;t do it on purpose, and luckily its correctable after the fact albeit at almost triple the cost not including the time it will take to do. Care to take a guess what I did? See Where&#039;s Waldo pic below for the answer.<br /> <br /> Also, I am very looking forward to seeing your truck, I hope its a perfect match for your Shocker Camaro but even close enough will be cool as heck.<br /> <a href="https://hdrams.com/forum/attachments/53255/" target="_blank">View attachment 53255</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>No ACC, no proximity entry, no front camera?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1140" data-quote="jsalbre" data-source="post: 251367" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251367" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251367">jsalbre said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> No ACC, no proximity entry, no front camera? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>All of those are correct but I didn&#039;t want any one them so that&#039;s not it.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 28790" data-quote="44Dan44" data-source="post: 251371" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251371" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251371">44Dan44 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> All of those are correct but I didn&#039;t want any one them so that&#039;s not it. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I&#039;m guessing you forgot to add chrome appearance group?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 28346" data-quote="bhal212" data-source="post: 251380" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251380" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251380">bhal212 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;m guessing you forgot to add chrome appearance group? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Oh heck no! I did everything possible to avoid chrome, carpet, and cloth.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 28790" data-quote="44Dan44" data-source="post: 251353" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251353" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251353">44Dan44 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Sorry I missed this post <a href="https://hdrams.com/forum/members/28549/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="28549" data-username="@dmhines">@dmhines</a> I did not get Blind Spot Monitoring, I assumed many things along the way, tradesman, long bed, 50 gallon tank, but mostly the 7&quot; TFT cluster (so happy that one came through for $75) was my main thought for the delay. But later I thought, I did it to myself making the dumbest decision in the history of decisions, didn&#039;t do it on purpose, and luckily its correctable after the fact albeit at almost triple the cost not including the time it will take to do. Care to take a guess what I did? See Where&#039;s Waldo pic below for the answer.<br /> <br /> Also, I am very looking forward to seeing your truck, I hope its a perfect match for your Shocker Camaro but even close enough will be cool as heck.<br /> <a href="https://hdrams.com/forum/attachments/53255/" target="_blank">View attachment 53255</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>No tow hooks, night edition</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 28997" data-quote="engweld22" data-source="post: 251382" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251382" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251382">engweld22 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> No tow hooks, night edition </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Freaking tow hooks is right!!!<br /> So I think its fair to assume that this particular lower grille without the openings is fairly rare in the parts bins (and may have caused me a delay in C status) since many other options cause tow hooks to be included, I forgot to click the $100 tow hook option because a different option gave me the skid plate so I just assumed. I have the new lower grille piece and tow hooks and hardware in hand for when my truck comes in. <br /> <br /> <a href="https://hdrams.com/forum/attachments/image-3-13-23-at-8-14-am-jpg.53257/" target="_blank"><img src="https://hdrams.com/forum/data/attachments/53/53257-68875f934fbf32fa540f0edc0145eeb0.jpg?hash=aIdfk0-_Mv" class="bbImage " style="" alt="Image 3-13-23 at 8.14 AM.jpg" title="Image 3-13-23 at 8.14 AM.jpg" width="218" height="150" loading="lazy" /></a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Should just be able to pop it out from the back, then the tow hooks can be slid through. Shouldn&#039;t have to remove the facia.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 28997" data-quote="engweld22" data-source="post: 251386" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=251386" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-251386">engweld22 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Should just be able to pop it out from the back, then the tow hooks can be slid through. Shouldn&#039;t have to remove the facia. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I think it&#039;s that way in another trim or older model, this just has integrated honeycomb that you&#039;d have to cut.</div>
 
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