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It's10. I'm not one of them.
It's10. I'm not one of them.
Agree. They’re both awesome. Sandi has repeatedly told me to “check back in 2-3 weeks”. So that’s what I usually do. Just a quick email…. “When you have a minute…no rush…anytime next week is fine…can you check if there is an update to the estimate ship date?”Lucky devil. I ordered from Aaron at Mark Dodge and try to avoid bothering him since I know he is super busy.
Make sure you sit in the Ford and drive one if you can. Personally, it's not as comfortable as the Ram. The seats are more "work truck" feeling. Thinner cushions. As far as adaptive cruise, they are a nuisance to use. I've been driving rental vehicles for the past few months from Nissan to VW and they are annoying. I feel like I'm a very considerate driver. I travel mostly highway and I can tell when a vehicle has the adaptive cruise on. I drive in the right lane until I'm ready to pass. I see them coming up in my rear view mirror fast, so I wait to get over to the left lane, then that vehicle slows down behind me making me think I can get over to pass the tractor trailer in the right lane then they get over and the adaptive cruise kicks back in and it accelerates. I know, cuz that's what happens to me when I used it. You have to be constantly cancelling it or be inconsiderate and constantly slowing and accelerating. That's just my rant on the adaptive cruise. Anyway, Ford is nice. Looked into them myself. Wouldn't buy a diesel truck over Ram, but the 7.3 Gasser is nice.Ready for flames --- conundrum: local dealer yesterday offered an in-stock 2021 F-250 Lariat 7.3L at 8% below sticker. Nice truck, very comparable to my order 2022 2500 Laramie 6.4Hemi with all the Tech ( LevelB/SafetyGroup/TowTech/SnowChief/OffRoad/BedUtility/BodyColorBumpers) I ordered on 12 July. The F-250 has everything but the adaptive cruise and heated rear seats - but adds panoramic sunroof, steps, 20"wheels. My Ram deal is also good and about 9% less then sticker. Overall price difference is about $3k more for Ford. The catch is F-250 is "now" - and giving full amount for my trade with a good discount. My Ram dealer mentioned yesterday my trade has probably decreased about $1k from order date and seems no one has an idea on when a tech optioned Laramie might get built. So my trade value decreasing the longer I wait starts to make up the difference in price.
I'm coming from a Chevy Silverado - so I don't really care about brand loyalty - just want a nice/capable/reliable truck. When I did the search this summer, was a toss-up between RAM/Ford - I liked RAM, wife liked Ford plusses/minus for each truck. Agree with all the previous comments on overpricing these days for "lot trucks" waiting is a no brainer and having patience is key - but with a similar "deal" 9% vs 8% do you think the same thing?
I do like the RAM I built on order- obviously picked all the preferences (colors, options, etc). Worth the unknown wait for RAM? or jump on deal with Ford (knowing they are NOT doing the overpriced thing like most dealer lots right now) ?
Thoughts?
You know that old adage about "a bird in the hand". I have never owned a Ford so I can't say anything bad about them but, they are #1 in truck sales.Ready for flames --- conundrum: local dealer yesterday offered an in-stock 2021 F-250 Lariat 7.3L at 8% below sticker. Nice truck, very comparable to my order 2022 2500 Laramie 6.4Hemi with all the Tech ( LevelB/SafetyGroup/TowTech/SnowChief/OffRoad/BedUtility/BodyColorBumpers) I ordered on 12 July. The F-250 has everything but the adaptive cruise and heated rear seats - but adds panoramic sunroof, steps, 20"wheels. My Ram deal is also good and about 9% less then sticker. Overall price difference is about $3k more for Ford. The catch is F-250 is "now" - and giving full amount for my trade with a good discount. My Ram dealer mentioned yesterday my trade has probably decreased about $1k from order date and seems no one has an idea on when a tech optioned Laramie might get built. So my trade value decreasing the longer I wait starts to make up the difference in price.
I'm coming from a Chevy Silverado - so I don't really care about brand loyalty - just want a nice/capable/reliable truck. When I did the search this summer, was a toss-up between RAM/Ford - I liked RAM, wife liked Ford plusses/minus for each truck. Agree with all the previous comments on overpricing these days for "lot trucks" waiting is a no brainer and having patience is key - but with a similar "deal" 9% vs 8% do you think the same thing?
I do like the RAM I built on order- obviously picked all the preferences (colors, options, etc). Worth the unknown wait for RAM? or jump on deal with Ford (knowing they are NOT doing the overpriced thing like most dealer lots right now) ?
Thoughts?
Can't go wrong with a Ford truck. I currently have a F-150 and know several people with F-250s. It's really a personal opinion but I honestly feel Fords 7.3 is better in every single aspect over RAMs 6.4. You get a bigger cab with the Ford (for all the MegaCab bros, Fords crew cab is still bigger), aluminum body, more power, more torque. Looks come down to your own opinion but both trucks looks outstanding.... maybe a slight advantage to RAM since the Ford looks plain from the side. Ford upgraded to a 12 in screen this year so thats a plus there as well. I personally like the RAM interior and thats what drove me on my decision. The RAM truck has a great interior but everything else on the truck is dated and under powered. Go with whatever truck you like more!
Depends on where you get your stats...Maybe #1 for half ton, but for HD, Ram is still #1You know that old adage about "a bird in the hand". I have never owned a Ford so I can't say anything bad about them but, they are #1 in truck sales.
What build tool are the guys using thar are currently building trucks to check pricing differences between bh, Laramie and Limited? Ram's site still only let's you build a irrelevant 2021.
I completely disagree about the adaptive cruise. I drive 1k-1500k miles a week in a cherokee that has it and all the other bells and whistles. Adaptive cruise is a huge safety upgrade. And reduces the stress placed on you from driving so much. I rarely have to cancel my cruise and resume it. Unless coming to a stop. It one of the features I insisted I had to have if I was going to upgrade my truck.
I only use my truck to pull a large 5th wheel, usually between 5-10k miles a year. So the cruise is May be more valuable to me than others that don't drive long distances though.
I'd pass based on the sunroof alone. My buddy gets a new one every year or two...and specifically will not own another with the sunroof. He's had 4 recently and they ALL leak. His latest truck doesn't have the sunroof and he's happy again. I was interested in one of his used ones and he specifically said to wait for the one he has now..simply for the lack of sunroof.Ready for flames --- conundrum: local dealer yesterday offered an in-stock 2021 F-250 Lariat 7.3L at 8% below sticker. Nice truck, very comparable to my order 2022 2500 Laramie 6.4Hemi with all the Tech ( LevelB/SafetyGroup/TowTech/SnowChief/OffRoad/BedUtility/BodyColorBumpers) I ordered on 12 July. The F-250 has everything but the adaptive cruise and heated rear seats - but adds panoramic sunroof, steps, 20"wheels. My Ram deal is also good and about 9% less then sticker. Overall price difference is about $3k more for Ford. The catch is F-250 is "now" - and giving full amount for my trade with a good discount. My Ram dealer mentioned yesterday my trade has probably decreased about $1k from order date and seems no one has an idea on when a tech optioned Laramie might get built. So my trade value decreasing the longer I wait starts to make up the difference in price.
I'm coming from a Chevy Silverado - so I don't really care about brand loyalty - just want a nice/capable/reliable truck. When I did the search this summer, was a toss-up between RAM/Ford - I liked RAM, wife liked Ford plusses/minus for each truck. Agree with all the previous comments on overpricing these days for "lot trucks" waiting is a no brainer and having patience is key - but with a similar "deal" 9% vs 8% do you think the same thing?
I do like the RAM I built on order- obviously picked all the preferences (colors, options, etc). Worth the unknown wait for RAM? or jump on deal with Ford (knowing they are NOT doing the overpriced thing like most dealer lots right now) ?
Thoughts?
If I recall correctly, they also reduce payload. And, not to be Debbie downer, I have a police friend who said rollovers with sunroofs can be...bad.I'd pass based on the sunroof alone. My buddy gets a new one every year or two...and specifically will not own another with the sunroof. He's had 4 recently and they ALL leak. His latest truck doesn't have the sunroof and he's happy again. I was interested in one of his used ones and he specifically said to wait for the one he has now..simply for the lack of sunroof.
What build tool are the guys using thar are currently building trucks to check pricing differences between bh, Laramie and Limited? Ram's site still only let's you build a irrelevant 2021.
I completely disagree about the adaptive cruise. I drive 1k-1500k miles a week in a cherokee that has it and all the other bells and whistles. Adaptive cruise is a huge safety upgrade. And reduces the stress placed on you from driving so much. I rarely have to cancel my cruise and resume it. Unless coming to a stop. It one of the features I insisted I had to have if I was going to upgrade my truck.
I only use my truck to pull a large 5th wheel, usually between 5-10k miles a year. So the cruise is May be more valuable to me than others that don't drive long distances though.
The mega cab's storage behind and under the seat (and the in floor behind seat covered cubbies) are what kept me out of an F-250. Having those all easily accessible makes my truck so much more useful for me with a family. The 60/40 split on the Ford is opposite the Ram so my kids in the Ford would be sitting on both vs just the 60 in the Ram. Ford's underseat storage is nice but always have to lift a seat up to access it meaning one of the kids has to unbuckle and get up and move the booster seat. You can get an aftermarket strap to release and fold down the backseat on the drivers side like you can the passenger side but there's hardly any space back there. Maybe a few things would fit back there but not much. If I didn't need/utilize those storage features so regularly, I would've gone with the F-250 because I felt the truck felt/drove smaller (not a fan of Ram's gargantuan hood) even tho overall same length as the Mega Cab, and the interiors are brighter. Ram's all dark interiors are not my thing.That is a tough one. I currently have a 2022 F-250 build sheet out to 2 dealers waiting on pricing. With the 12” in the Ford now, they’re pretty close to the same truck. I ordered a Limited MegaCab on 6/21. If I don’t hear anything in next 2 weeks, I’m moving forward with Ford. I hate it too, because I love my Ram! I need a bigger backseat tho, and the more I look at F/250, the better they look. I really don’t need the storage behind seat, I need backseat room for little girls that like putting their feet all over Daddy’s nice seats, haha!
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I feel that if this was the experience for everyone, Ram wouldn’t offer sunroofs or they would find a way to make them work. Is it something he’s doing to cause the leaks?He's had 4 recently and they ALL leak. His latest truck doesn't have the sunroof and he's happy again.
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Make sure you sit in the Ford and drive one if you can. Personally, it's not as comfortable as the Ram. The seats are more "work truck" feeling. Thinner cushions. As far as adaptive cruise, they are a nuisance to use. I've been driving rental vehicles for the past few months from Nissan to VW and they are annoying. I feel like I'm a very considerate driver. I travel mostly highway and I can tell when a vehicle has the adaptive cruise on. I drive in the right lane until I'm ready to pass. I see them coming up in my rear view mirror fast, so I wait to get over to the left lane, then that vehicle slows down behind me making me think I can get over to pass the tractor trailer in the right lane then they get over and the adaptive cruise kicks back in and it accelerates. I know, cuz that's what happens to me when I used it. You have to be constantly cancelling it or be inconsiderate and constantly slowing and accelerating. That's just my rant on the adaptive cruise. Anyway, Ford is nice. Looked into them myself. Wouldn't buy a diesel truck over Ram, but the 7.3 Gasser is nice.
My wife's car has the adaptive cruise and I find my self turning it off more often than not. I am so accustom to driving with regular cruise that I don't notice when I come up on a slower vehicle and the cruise slows me down and keeps me a safe distance behind, even on the closest setting. I'm used the visual of coming up on the slower car as signal to my brain to move over. Since ACC comes with the other features I wanted in the Safety Group, I'll try it but ultimately might always turn it off. Maybe when towing it'll be more useful to me since I'll likely be the slowest on the road.I completely disagree about the adaptive cruise. I drive 1k-1500k miles a week in a cherokee that has it and all the other bells and whistles. Adaptive cruise is a huge safety upgrade. And reduces the stress placed on you from driving so much. I rarely have to cancel my cruise and resume it. Unless coming to a stop. It one of the features I insisted I had to have if I was going to upgrade my truck.
I only use my truck to pull a large 5th wheel, usually between 5-10k miles a year. So the cruise is May be more valuable to me than others that don't drive long distances though.
Ford's ACs have ALWAYS been king in my experience in all of their vehicles. Whatever they know that the others don't is incredible.I spent some time in the back seat of an F-150 last week dove hunting. Roomier than mine, flat floor, and the AC kicked Ram to the curb, but the seats were nowhere near as comfortable. If it matters, it was a cloth trim truck. Seemed harder to get into (door opening shorter?)